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Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

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mae13 Fri 13-Mar-26 08:44:57

.......even if he wants to because he's lost control of Netanyahu.

The Israeli military is going berserk with the full blessing of Netanyahu. The US giving him support was a disastrous mis-calculation and now Israel seemingly doesn't need Trump anymore.

If he thought he would have the Iran business done and dusted in about a week, and he would come out of it as King of the World........well, his biggest mistake (among many) so far.

AGAA4 Sun 15-Mar-26 12:04:50

One of Trump's advisers warned him that Iran would close the Strait of Hormuz but Trump said it would all be over before that happened.
Going in without a plan and approval by Congress and Trump is struggling now.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 15-Mar-26 11:51:56

And it’s a different ‘moral’ crime not to when necessary.

Maremia Sun 15-Mar-26 11:50:30

It's a 'crime' to go into an illegal war.

MaizieD Sun 15-Mar-26 11:01:27

Israel is, apparently running short of missile interceptors (which are a key part of its defences against Iranian missiles)

As usual, there seems to be some confusion as to whether or not the US will help them out as this news story from Yahoo shows

www.yahoo.com/news/articles/israel-running-critically-low-interceptors-203027570.html?

ronib Sun 15-Mar-26 10:45:45

Iran has worked with Russia and China against the West. Why would we not act? Trump has to see this through.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 15-Mar-26 10:31:20

Perhaps the Straight of Hormuz should be patrolled by rubber dinghies - nothing can stop them.

jeffreykearney6 Sun 15-Mar-26 10:30:51

The war need to stop to avoid economic poor growth.

AGAA4 Sun 15-Mar-26 10:28:32

Addressed how? It seems to be stale mate at the moment. US/Israel fighting with bombs and Iran fighting economically by closing the strait.

jeffreykearney6 Sun 15-Mar-26 10:28:28

Trump can stop the war only if he wishes to!!!

AGAA4 Sun 15-Mar-26 10:23:13

De-escalation is the only way to move forward now and get the strait open.
Iran is still under the same regime as before so Trump's intervention achieved nothing.
The US Israel and Iran need to agree on a ceasefire as bombing each other is not working just causing death destruction and chaos which has spread widely.

ronib Sun 15-Mar-26 10:19:28

2026
We live in 2026
This problem needs to be addressed now. It’s a crime to continue to allow Iran the terrorist network to attack Israel.

Maremia Sun 15-Mar-26 09:45:55

If Iran has issues with Israel, they both have had 70 plus years to sort this out through diplomacy.

Maremia Sun 15-Mar-26 09:41:55

But I do agree that Trump and Israel are being shameful in going into an illegal war.

Maremia Sun 15-Mar-26 09:40:21

'Trump is acting with integrity', but at the same time will continue bombing that island 'just for fun'.
Are you serious?

Fallingstar Sun 15-Mar-26 09:32:29

Chocolatelovinggran

Israel does, of course, have nuclear weapons, as does the USA , ronib.
I'm not sure how stable the leaders of those countries are, and I am not convinced that these capabilities make me feel safe, either.

If Iran had nuclear capability this war couldn’t happen because nuclear capability acts as a deterrent not a threat of nuclear war. It is the ultimate defence for a sovereign country, and looking at what is happening to Iran now it makes perfect sense that they would seek this deterrent.
This does not in any shape or form mean I am supporting the regime or am in favour of nuclear weapons, am just outlining why sovereign nations seek nuclear capability.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 15-Mar-26 09:16:47

Israel does, of course, have nuclear weapons, as does the USA , ronib.
I'm not sure how stable the leaders of those countries are, and I am not convinced that these capabilities make me feel safe, either.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 15-Mar-26 09:16:14

Blimey

“ Trump is acting with integrity”

On what planet could that be said😄😄😄

ronib Sun 15-Mar-26 09:11:55

Okay BJones what nuclear war? Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons and let’s keep it that way.

ronib Sun 15-Mar-26 09:05:47

Iran is without doubt the aggressor because it funds Hamas and Hezbollah to destroy Israel. Israel can’t be expected to lie quietly and accept this.
So what is Iran’s goal towards Israel? The complete destruction of Israel as a country. Why not oppose this? Trump is acting with integrity while so many countries pretend not to notice.
Regime change won’t come from Iran that’s true. But it will happen.

BoadiceaJones Sun 15-Mar-26 09:00:43

ronib Sun 15-Mar-26 08:00:21
Unfortunately it would be better for everyone if Iran wasn’t governed by a theocracy and for Israel in particular. It’s shameful that it’s Trump and Israel who are leading the war. Hitler had to be fought and overcome so why the hesitation this time around when faced with a similar situation?

Errmmm....let me just check that I understand what you are saying, as I really am struggling.

Unfortunately it would be better for everyone if Iran wasn’t governed by a theocracy and for Israel in particular.

I really don't think that a nation has to seek approval from the rest of the world to ensure that their government is "better for everyone", do you? "And Israel in particular"? Do you really believe that? Do you understand the shameful role of Britain in the shaping of the ME today? Your country has blood on its hands, so don't start pontificating on what would be better or more convenient for Israel in their empire building, and for Trump in hiding the misdeeds of his murderous regime.

Shameful that it's Trump and Israel who are leading the war"

Disgusting, disgraceful, illegal, appalling, ill-advised, maybe, but "shameful"? Who else would have the barefaced gall to precipitate the entire world into a potential nuclear cataclysm than those two arrogant old men who care nothing for human life, except their own? If it's shameful for the USA and Israel to be leading the war, who else would you suggest do so, since you imply a moral imperative in initiating a war?

"Hitler had to be fought and overcome..similar situation." So...you are comparing Iran with Hitler's Germany? How are they in any way similar? Has Iran over-run its neighbours, deliberately igniting conflict? Has Iran, having declared its genetic superiority, rounded up millions of people, based on ethnicity, with the express intention of genocide? Iran was prepared to come to the table to avoid lighting the spark of war, but was preempted by a bunch of ignorant bigots, at least as bigoted as the worst Iranian religious nutter. Iran is accused of murdering its own citizens, and without a doubt, that is true. But the criminal regime of Trump seems to incur little condemnation in the West, other than with amused tutting.

twaddle Sun 15-Mar-26 08:58:20

ronib

twaddle yes

I don't agree with you. Iran hasn't been sending tanks into neighbouring countries to annexe them. There's a chance the Iranian people themselves might have brought about change, but that's less likely now because America and Israel have shown themselves to be hostile to Iran. The Shah was originally deposed because he was seen as an American puppet and the Iranians aren't prepared to accept American domination.

During the late 1930s, there was no way the German people would have toppled Hitler from within. Germany was, without a doubt, the aggressor.

twaddle Sun 15-Mar-26 08:51:18

ronib

This mess needs serious warfare. Iran under a theocracy is never going to be peaceful towards Israel. How many more years does it drift on? Trump and Netanyahu are right to strike now. The UK doesn’t have any resources to fight.

What precisely are Trump and Netanyahu hoping to achieve? What's the end game?

ronib Sun 15-Mar-26 08:41:08

This mess needs serious warfare. Iran under a theocracy is never going to be peaceful towards Israel. How many more years does it drift on? Trump and Netanyahu are right to strike now. The UK doesn’t have any resources to fight.

petra Sun 15-Mar-26 08:39:54

Whitewavemark2

I was listening to a podcast from an American commentator last evening, who is more right wing. He thinks just like the rest of the sane world that Trumps war is madness, but he also reckons that Trump still has at least 80-90% of MAGA with him.

I think that the longer this goes on with prices rocketing and more and more body bags, maimed and injured (largely from their own incompetence as far as I can see) continue to be broadcast, the more Trumps support will fall away.

The bookies have an 70% chance of Trump loosing the Senate at mid-terms.

I think I might have a bet on that. Won’t be very good odds though.
I got a good return on my bets for his two wins.
Not because I supported him but you only had to listen and read to see which way the wind was blowing.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 15-Mar-26 08:37:25

Yes renewables. My AC have covered their roofs and in one case their garage and garden shed with solar panels, as well as battery storage. Both have electric cars.

Sitting pretty!

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