Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

We were not consulted, or even informed, of these actions taken by the USA and Israel .
Therefore, we have no reason to involve ourselves.
The ( highly predictable) mess has been made. Those who are responsible should look to how it might be resolved.

Casdon

Cometh the hour, cometh the Ed Miliband Maremia. I doubt his detractors will fall on their sword, however.

Nothing wrong with alternative energy. I lived off grid for 20 years. Wind turbines starting in 1979 and when solar panels came to the market we covered our wheelhouse roof with them.
This country’s problem is/was we left it too late. We went from practically no green policies to full on. The general public weren’t ready for it.
If milliband was truely serious about net zero he should have every roof in this country covered in solar panels. Cutting down on panels covering land ( and upsetting people) 😂

I was listening to a podcast from an American commentator last evening, who is more right wing. He thinks just like the rest of the sane world that Trumps war is madness, but he also reckons that Trump still has at least 80-90% of MAGA with him.

I think that the longer this goes on with prices rocketing and more and more body bags, maimed and injured (largely from their own incompetence as far as I can see) continue to be broadcast, the more Trumps support will fall away.

The bookies have an 70% chance of Trump loosing the Senate at mid-terms.

Iran has avowed the destruction of Israel. Any thoughts about that?

Israel has been led into an illegal war by a man accused of war crimes.
Any thoughts about that?

Not forgetting that Hitler was democratically elected and Iran doesn’t hold elections.

twaddle yes

I don’t think it will be long now Grandmabatty. I’ve been following the MAGA narrative, and his approval rating is plummeting. Vance is visibly distancing himself too, which is because he doesn’t want to get arrested, apparently.

ronib

Unfortunately it would be better for everyone if Iran wasn’t governed by a theocracy and for Israel in particular. It’s shameful that it’s Trump and Israel who are leading the war. Hitler had to be fought and overcome so why the hesitation this time around when faced with a similar situation?

Are you equating Nazi Germany and Iran?

Well that’s Trump’s way of telling Iran where to go…. It’s a war after all and he wants to win it. Grandmabatty

It's being reported this morning that Trump wants to hit the island again "for fun." The Republicans have said nothing. How far will he go before the American people get rid of him?

Unfortunately it would be better for everyone if Iran wasn’t governed by a theocracy and for Israel in particular. It’s shameful that it’s Trump and Israel who are leading the war. Hitler had to be fought and overcome so why the hesitation this time around when faced with a similar situation?

An honest diagnosis of his current physical and mental condition is what the USA and the world needs just now
He is not mentally fit to be in a position of power.

AGAA4

Why should we put our own ships and personnel in danger for this arrogant self serving insulting excuse for a man.
Hopefully the MOD will stick to saying this can't be done while there is still fierce fighting.

I am with you here. I much preferred Sir Keir Starmer's measured approach to Trump's illegal war. He thought Iran would be an easy target, much like Putin viewed Ukraine. Why should the UK be drawn into another illegal war started by the US?

Sometimes there’s only one answer, but I can’t even say what that word begins with.

The question should be how do we shut Donald Trump down?

Oil, yes indeed a problem...but what about fertiliser? Not allowing passage of ships containing the vital nutrients of industrialised agriculture will starve people sooner than a lack of oil.

Cometh the hour, cometh the Ed Miliband Maremia. I doubt his detractors will fall on their sword, however.

Perhaps we need more of a push towards renewable, and then we would not be held hostage in this way way?

Taking Trump at his word, ie ‘other countries that receive oil through the Hormuz strait’ pretty much lets the UK off the hook. I just googled where does UK oil come from:

‘The UK gets its oil primarily from domestic production in the North Sea (UK Continental Shelf) and through imports, with Norway and the United States being the largest foreign suppliers. While the UK produces significant oil, much is exported, and it imports different grades to meet local demand.
BBC

Key Oil Sources and Suppliers:
UK Continental Shelf (North Sea): Domestic production, although production has declined since peaking in 1999.
Norway: The largest external supplier of crude oil to the UK, often via pipeline.
United States: A major provider of crude oil and liquefied natural gas (LNG).
Other Key Suppliers: Imports are also sourced from countries including Algeria, Canada, and various OPEC members.
Refining Imports: While the UK imports crude, it also imports refined oil products (petrol/diesel) due to limited domestic refinery capacity.
UK Parliament

The UK's strategy involves continuing to use oil and gas from the North Sea while transitioning to lower-emission production.
Offshore Energies UK (OEUK)

Astonishingly I’ve just learned that in fact Iran is letting tankers through Hormuz which are bound for China. So they are clearly totally in control.

The biggest military power on earth can’t control this tiny piece of sea,

What happens if oil was stopped getting through Hormuz Strait.
It is only 7.5%.

Let oil price go up for everyone?

Think that may be the best option, personally.

Else many Countries will be sitting ducks there and many lives lost.

[Trump [and advisors should have thought about the Strait, and had a plan[hollow laugh]]. Appears they didnt].

FFS (sorry, I can’t help it) but why does this man lie incessantly? He is obviously insane.

“The United States of America has beaten and completely decimated Iran, both Militarily, Economically, and in every other way, but the Countries of the World that receive Oil through the Hormuz Strait must take care of that passage, and we will help — A LOT!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

He added that the US will coordinate with the countries “so that everything goes quickly, smoothly, and well” and that this “should have always been a team effort, and now it will be.”

It should be renamed Bullshit Social.

If he can't 'control' this war, then maybe it's time to sue for a ceasefire.
If he needs help, that doesn't sound as if he is 'winning'.
Save lives, property, supply lines, and call a halt.