Mr Trump Can't Shut This War Down........

People need to wake up. And quick.

Most of the stuff which I said upthread.

There are reports that the US wants to repurpose $750 milion which NATO allocated to weapons for Ukraine to go instead to help the Iran war.

edition.cnn.com/2026/03/27/middleeast/iran-us-demands-war-ending-diplomacy-intl
This sounds about right in predicting the end to me

David49

I don't see how the US is going to win yet or even get Hormuz open, a land operation even on a restricted scale could mean a lot of casualties whereas a blockade could be done with much less risk.
War is a dirty game, you don't win by being nice, it's well last time that Iran got some of its terrorism repaid.

Nobody can win David49. This isn’t going to be that sort of war.

foxie48

The bombing of Lebanon has been very bad and has resulted in a million people being displaced, which is nearly 20% of the population. Again, innocent people being bombed.

They got away with it in Gaza ( which is, I believe, still being bombed ) so they know they’ll get away with it in Lebanon.

I don't see how the US is going to win yet or even get Hormuz open, a land operation even on a restricted scale could mean a lot of casualties whereas a blockade could be done with much less risk.
War is a dirty game, you don't win by being nice, it's well last time that Iran got some of its terrorism repaid.

Casdon

I think you’re right foxie48, other than you didn’t mention his ego. I think he genuinely believes he is the best president ever, he has an obsession with winning, and seeing his name in lights. There isn’t a way this war can be won, by either side, and I’m not sure that has dawned on him yet. He will find it hard to live with billions and a trashed reputation I suspect.

I suspect you're right. I honestly think Trump wanted to go down in the history books as some kind of hero who "sorted" the Middle East problem. He hasn't a clue about strategy; it just seems he thought he could shout loud enough and people would quake when threatened by the richest country in the world.

foxie48

The bombing of Lebanon has been very bad and has resulted in a million people being displaced, which is nearly 20% of the population. Again, innocent people being bombed.

a million, I can't comprehend it.

What on earth is a non innocent inhabitant of Iran?

People and loyalties and families are complex things.

I think it's so sad to see the devastation of places like Beirut. The little details like somebody's washing hanging out.

It's heartbreaking. All that suffering and for what?

The bombing of Lebanon has been very bad and has resulted in a million people being displaced, which is nearly 20% of the population. Again, innocent people being bombed.

I have been hearing about people trying to get their loved ones from under mounds of rubble.
The same bombing till nothing is left as in Gaza.

Oreo

….and the definitely not innocent citizens in Iran as well.
Trump likes to keep enemies guessing and unsure of what he’ll do next.

The "not innocent citizens in Iran" are either working for or being protected by the regime, whereas the ones who do not support the regime, which is the majority (estimated 70-80%) are getting killed by both sides. Don't you have any sympathy or concern for them, Oreo?

David49

Trump has now got to wait until more troops and supplies arrive
That may be a week or a month we will see, Iran will fight back doggedly inch by inch, casualties don’t matter to them they are all martyrs

Personally I think Trump will have to blockade totally and starve them into submission. However it develops Trump is likely to loose his majority in November and Iran knows it

David, if only you can hear yourself!!!

You are totally unhinged just like Donald Trump if you think there is nothing wrong with starving people during war.

That’s what happened to prisoners of war – The British and the Allies in the Far East. They were starved to death by the Japanese. The same thing happened to the Jews in the concentration camps during WW2.

When Israel was bombing Gaza and starving the Palestinians, the Israel embassy in Singapore wrote an article on their embassy website, quoting the Quran to defend the Jewish settlements and justify their actions.

The article stated that the Quran mentions Israel 43 times and not once did the Quran mentions Palestine. The word Israel in the Quran does not even refers to the State of Israel, it refers to Bani Israel the descendants of Prophet Jacob.

Singapore government ordered the Israel embassy to remove that post.

It seems to me that Trump has been played by Netanyahu in starting the Iran war.

Iran will hold out as long as it can to hurt the US and other economies as much as possible. It is succeeding and even if the war finishes soon it will take time for things to settle.
What has Trump achieved with this war apart from making huge amounts of money.
Have all those people died for his personal wealth.

Trump has now got to wait until more troops and supplies arrive
That may be a week or a month we will see, Iran will fight back doggedly inch by inch, casualties don’t matter to them they are all martyrs

Personally I think Trump will have to blockade totally and starve them into submission. However it develops Trump is likely to loose his majority in November and Iran knows it

I think you’re right foxie48, other than you didn’t mention his ego. I think he genuinely believes he is the best president ever, he has an obsession with winning, and seeing his name in lights. There isn’t a way this war can be won, by either side, and I’m not sure that has dawned on him yet. He will find it hard to live with billions and a trashed reputation I suspect.

I don't think Trump cares about losing support, he's not really a Republican so he's no interest in who is the next President. He won't be standing again because he'd definitely lose, not allowed a third term and he won't try for one as "he'd definitely lose". He'll keep going with the war because the Saudis etc don't want the ME left in a mess and Trump is making billions because of their patronage. Don't forget the Qatari plane that's going in his library! Trump is all about the money, he cares nothing for anyone other than himself.

Iran will never agree to Trump's 15 point plan however many days he gives them to accept it. If they can hold on to the Strait of Hormuz long enough the US may have tomthink again.
While it's closed to hostile shipping there will be shortages of food, technology such as components for mobile phones and batteries.
Prices will rise and Trump will be blamed. He is losing support daily and when people can't afford essentials his support will plummet.

If Trump is able to keep enemies guessing because they don't know what he'll do next it's because he doesn't seem to know either.

Where the Beeb is concerned I think we have had the wool pulled over our eyes for years now with acceptance of all their output as credible.

….and the definitely not innocent citizens in Iran as well.
Trump likes to keep enemies guessing and unsure of what he’ll do next.

Back to Trump and Iran war, my guess is that Trump is just playing for time and has absolutely no intention of ending this war. He's moving another 10K troops into the area. If I can see through his spurious tweets on Truth Social ( what a joke that name is) then I'm sure Iran can do. IMO this war is going to escalate and we will all pay for Trump's meddling, however the people who will really pay are the innocent citizens of Iran. What an absolute shambles!

On the plus side...he is a Doctor Who fan.

Is it safe to come out yet?

Anyway, we now have a former Google tech bro as chair of the BBC so it will soon be wall to wall AI generated and we know that AI never ever makes a mistake and cannot possibly be manipulated…