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Europe - dare we hope?

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 15-Mar-26 08:11:55

Tomorrow the government is to begin talks in Brussels about closer ties, which began last year.

It won’t be easy, as there are areas where the U.K. has diverged, and senior figures in Europe will not be happy about the UKs attempt to cherry pick - as is our wont.

But let us hope that the utter insanity of the past decade will at last begin to be put behind us.

Lookfill Mon 16-Mar-26 16:10:38

We donot want to rejoin the EU. They are only interested in the billions of EUROS starmer will give them. Don't forget to rejoin we will be compelled to use the Euro as our currency

Casdon Mon 16-Mar-26 15:39:44

Here is some of the latest information. There is plenty out there if you care to Google.
yougov.com/en-gb/articles/53201-where-do-europeans-stand-on-the-eu
www.eunews.it/en/2025/09/03/citizens-dont-want-to-leave-the-eu-but-fewer-remain-convinced-by-the-parliament/

Maremia Mon 16-Mar-26 15:39:09

You seriously can't see that Casdon has posted research with a reference?
wink

Oreo Mon 16-Mar-26 15:34:32

Casdon

Apart from not posting facts, obviously.

Untrue

mbody Mon 16-Mar-26 15:34:17

Casdon - I didn’t notice any hard proof of your “facts”.

Casdon Mon 16-Mar-26 15:28:19

Apart from not posting facts, obviously.

Oreo Mon 16-Mar-26 15:23:30

WithNobsOnIt

I voted Brexit as l always thought the EU was a failure waiting to happen. It was, and still is unworkable in so many ways.
The Euro was and still is a joke.

EU is bloated with Eurocrats with nice jobs. And very Brussels centric.

We also paid in a lot more than we got in return. So ofcourse they miss us.

Iti is now facing big trouble with members wanting to leave and lots of governance and unemployment problems. Hardly entente cordial?

The only reasons we should entertain it is because of the problems with Iran etc and to look at having some kind of genuine free trading area agreement.

I am always surprised how some people in this country always blame all our problems on COVID, Brexit, The Coast of Living Crisis and now the Iran War.

Yes, they certainly do affect matters but they are wholly responsible.

Think a succession of awful governments, muddle headed, weak leadership, personal responsibility and accountability play their roles

You’re absolutely right.

Casdon Mon 16-Mar-26 15:15:40

Gransnet is getting to me today, because of posts which are made with no fact checks. It is a fallacy that countries want to leave.

‘Desire to leave the European Union is generally low, with most member states showing strong majority support for remaining. While euroscepticism exists and some citizens in countries like France, Italy, and Poland feel their nation could fare better outside, active, mainstream political movements campaigning for an immediate exit (a "Frexit" or "Italexit") have limited public backing.
Statista

WithNobsOnIt Mon 16-Mar-26 14:59:13

I voted Brexit as l always thought the EU was a failure waiting to happen. It was, and still is unworkable in so many ways.
The Euro was and still is a joke.

EU is bloated with Eurocrats with nice jobs. And very Brussels centric.

We also paid in a lot more than we got in return. So ofcourse they miss us.

Iti is now facing big trouble with members wanting to leave and lots of governance and unemployment problems. Hardly entente cordial?

The only reasons we should entertain it is because of the problems with Iran etc and to look at having some kind of genuine free trading area agreement.

I am always surprised how some people in this country always blame all our problems on COVID, Brexit, The Coast of Living Crisis and now the Iran War.

Yes, they certainly do affect matters but they are wholly responsible.

Think a succession of awful governments, muddle headed, weak leadership, personal responsibility and accountability play their roles

Maremia Mon 16-Mar-26 14:04:53

The thing about democracy is that you get to vote again.
Would people vote again for BREXIT now that we have lived its reality?

sixandahalf Mon 16-Mar-26 13:48:28

There was always going to be an accounting. Well, Here it is

Can any body explain this at all please?

The illegal war is some sort of pay back? I don't follow. Sorry.

mbody Mon 16-Mar-26 13:45:14

Obviously no point in voting on Brexit then. Does anyone remember democracy when the majority vote counted for something!!

MaizieD Mon 16-Mar-26 12:53:04

Oh dear, David

You can't stand the British, can you? 🙁

David49 Mon 16-Mar-26 09:33:31

Whitewavemark2

*Western nations have become fat and lazy on peace, cheap money and welfare*

What an extraordinary statement.

Fat and lazy yes, cheap money no.

Every time we borrow we add to the wealthy bank balances, there is no chance a more equal society. The same with foreign companies running our businesses and utilities they are taking wealth out of the UK - because we are too fat and lazy to do it ourselves. We employ over a million migrant workers because we are too fat and lazy.

MartavTaurus Mon 16-Mar-26 07:45:52

Her name is Ursula von der Leyen.

It's not difficult to try writing it!

sixandahalf Mon 16-Mar-26 07:05:45

Ursula Whatsit? What was she dictating please ?

twaddle Mon 16-Mar-26 06:46:30

What don't you like about the bigger picture?

twaddle Mon 16-Mar-26 06:45:55

What's Frau Merkel got to do with anything nowadays?

mum2three Mon 16-Mar-26 06:22:01

Is this the reason why Starmer is destroying British businesses and increasing unemployment, spending tax payers money on foreigners.....to prove that Brexit was a mistake? We need to be in charge of our own affairs, not dictated to by the likes of Frau Merkel and Ursula Whatsit.
As usual, most people are only concerned with how things affect them personally. A few see the bigger picture and don't like it.

Jane43 Mon 16-Mar-26 04:29:45

MayBee70

Keir Starmer has been working hard for years to improve our relationship with the EU. Which is probably why there are so many people determined to find a way to remove him from office.

Closer links with Europe of course was in the Labour manifesto.

Jane43 Mon 16-Mar-26 04:27:11

The usual suspects on FaceBook are up in arms falsely claiming that Cameron said the referendum was a once in a lifetime vote and it should be respected, of course what he said was it was a once in a generation vote.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 16-Mar-26 03:07:08

Western nations have become fat and lazy on peace, cheap money and welfare

What an extraordinary statement.

Maremia Sun 15-Mar-26 21:01:44

'bloated welfare states' what do you mean by that?
Do you mean having systems like the NHS, where you don't go bankrupt paying for cures for your sick relatives?
If so, give me 'bloated welfare states' every time.

Cossy Sun 15-Mar-26 17:47:21

*MayBee70

Romola
I campaigned hard for Remain and was derided on this site for saying I cried all day when Leave won. The last ten years showed that my tears were for good reason, as I knew at the time.
I'm a member of the European Movement and do all I can to support closer ties with the EU and its associates. I hate being an alien from what is our wider Western heritage.
Me too. Still haven’t got over watching the vote unfold through the night. Or the fact that we’re still suffering economically from it but it’s still theelephantintheroom.*

And also me!

I truly hope we can have much closer bonds with our closest neighbours.

Cossy Sun 15-Mar-26 17:45:20

🙏🙏🙏