China

Oreo

…and we’re allowing them the biggest embassy in London that the world have ever seen, in spite of warnings from our security people.
Another disaster that Starmer presides over.🤬

Agree absolute idiocy.

We've been down this road before, remember David Cameron and Huawei, despite security concerns. We're presided over by self-serving fools who either have no foresight or more probably don't give a damn.

China is not a friend, they steal and replicate manufacturing ideas then flood markets with their cheaper versions of whatever they've appropriated. They're quieter than Russia in going about achieving world dominance by stealth. They have zero respect for human rights they treat their own people like automotons, devoid of any free speech. Hong Kong lost that after a while as no doubt Taiwan will they've definitely set their sights on reclaiming that island, particularly as it's a rich country much of its wealth derived from its electronic industry, semiconductors etc. Those will all be swallowed into Chinese state control and the world will look on as the Taiwanese lose all their personal freedoms.

…and we’re allowing them the biggest embassy in London that the world have ever seen, in spite of warnings from our security people.
Another disaster that Starmer presides over.🤬

David49

Aveline

Geography very different between Hong Kong and Europe. Hong Kong had been colonised. Not surprising China wanted it back.

The difference is you cant question authority, you do as you're told, all companies follow Communist Party rules and targets. The police have complete control of the population, maybe some on GN would enjoy that, Im sure most wouldn't. Just imagine criticizing a Chinese Starmer it would get you jailed.

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China has a share in Hinkley Point nuclear, future Chinese investments have been banned on national security grounds.
Most of the UK nuclear industry is run by EDF - the French government. They are friendly of course but look after their own interests first.
Small modular reactors are being promoted as a nuclear alternative, but they still produce hot water for steam turbines which need a cooling system so have to be sited close to large rivers.
Politicians have halved nuclear power production in the UK in the last 30 yrs, the short term cost of gas being the easy option.

petra

If this article wasn’t so serious it could almost be laughable 🤦🏼‍♀️
China is very worried about its falling birth rate
This from a country that forced women to have late term abortions under the one child policy 😥

chinaobservers.eu/less-controllable-bodies-how-chinas-new-population-growth-policy-is-failing/

The fact that they could impose the one child policy itself ought to give @ Aveline and any others who view China’s presence and influence in the world as benevolent, pause for thought.

paddyann54

Petra why is the “UK” backing Israel and Trump?
Israel is bombing several countries causing death and destruction in tow with the orange one and his illegal no plan war in Iran.
Pick your side …why are some people disposable in the scheme of things and others are allowed to get off Scot free from these atrocities ?

I have no idea what you’re referring to. A clue would help 🤷‍♀️

David49

LOL. China will just order women to have more children, restrict contraception, because it's in the national interest

The above article claims the government are tracking women’s fertility cycle.

Petra why is the “UK” backing Israel and Trump?
Israel is bombing several countries causing death and destruction in tow with the orange one and his illegal no plan war in Iran.
Pick your side …why are some people disposable in the scheme of things and others are allowed to get off Scot free from these atrocities ?

Is ,t China involved in Englands new nuclear power plant?
They are also building a new massive embassy ….
This makes me very irritated as a recent transaction between the Scottish government and hina has been vetoed…apparently Whats good for the goose ISNT good for the gander in our case.
I,ll watch as that contract is snatched by Westminster and appears with the promised 1500 jobs in England .
It’s what usually happens when the veto something !
Power devolved is power retained …and sadly not in a good way .
Saor Alba

They now have a great gender imbalance, because of the one child policy. Most people wanted sons.

LOL. China will just order women to have more children, restrict contraception, because it's in the national interest

If this article wasn’t so serious it could almost be laughable 🤦🏼‍♀️
China is very worried about its falling birth rate
This from a country that forced women to have late term abortions under the one child policy 😥

chinaobservers.eu/less-controllable-bodies-how-chinas-new-population-growth-policy-is-failing/

You seem to have a pretty good handle on the way they operate David

China will suck the money out of every country, we all condemn billionaires getting ever richer, that is exactly what China is doing, making us dependant on them, their system.

China has 450 billionaires, all under the control of the state aiming for one purpose, aiming for global economic domination. They are giving us what we want cheap goods cheap credit, exploiting our democratic weakness. They large army they maintain is used for internal control, Chinese workers go where and do what they are told . China is not interested in military expansion, they can achieve global domination by economic pressure and were letting them do just that.

So is the fear of a takeover by China? That seems pretty unlikely. It's in their interest for our economy to thrive as we buy so much from them. A stable thriving economy sounds good enough to me. I'd be unlikely to object to any government who provided that.

Aveline

Geography very different between Hong Kong and Europe. Hong Kong had been colonised. Not surprising China wanted it back.

The Chinese leased Hong Kong to Britain for 99 years .in 1898. China did not want it back, because it always knew it would be coming back anyway.

Aveline

Geography very different between Hong Kong and Europe. Hong Kong had been colonised. Not surprising China wanted it back.

They were going to get it back anyway. In the end it went according to plan.
Then the new government didn’t keep their promises.

Aveline

Geography very different between Hong Kong and Europe. Hong Kong had been colonised. Not surprising China wanted it back.

The difference is you cant question authority, you do as you're told, all companies follow Communist Party rules and targets. The police have complete control of the population, maybe some on GN would enjoy that, Im sure most wouldn't. Just imagine criticizing a Chinese Starmer it would get you jailed.

Aveline, nevertheless, asks a valid question in the current climate. They have every chance to get in with whatever it is - and they are pretty successful - whilst Trump, who one minute declare them the Biggst Problem of all, goes gung ho into a war that can only really benefit China since its not involved, is sitting pretty watching and continuing.

Geography very different between Hong Kong and Europe. Hong Kong had been colonised. Not surprising China wanted it back.

Softly, softly catchee monkey.
Softly and with cash. Kenya is on the brink of throwing in its lot with China.
Perhaps the Chinese will be nice to us when they take over. I don’t think that they will let the foreign devils into any positions of power though.
Do I sound paranoid?
Did Mao cut off water supplies to HK during the water shortage of 1963? Well yes. It had to be imported by ship.
Luckily the riots of 1967 calmed down and although my father’s name was supposedly on a ‘naughty list’ somewhere in China the troubles stopped and we got on with life.

Go and ask the Hong Kong Chinese if they like the system they have now. Many who could leave did when they recognised the writing on the wall. The favoured destinations were Australia, Canada and the U.K.
The Chinese who rule aren’t very nice to those they control especially those who have the temerity to question.

Amnesty International:

www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/east-asia/china/report-china/

So China already does all this and owns all these resources but are we suffering as a result? I've not read Mao's little red book nor do we ever have Chinese takeaways but neither do I unquestioningly accept that China is somehow deadly enemy.

China holds a significant stake, although not a majority, in our new nuclear power plant at Hinkley Point.

In addition, the Chinese have stakes in UK Power Networks, gas, water companies, Heathrow Airport, logistics and distribution sites throughout the UK.

China holds stakes in 30 European sea ports
They own Rotterdam, the largest sea port outside Asia.
They own Piraeus a major maritime hub.
Imagine what they could do with these assets if they decided they wanted to change the whole demographics of shipping.