Trump says countries like UK can fight for their oil

The previously vocal posters on this forum, seem to be getting less vocal.
Is it all becoming too real?

I keep wanting to say, wakey wakey people.

There could be horrors to come. To the Uk.
And this year??

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Oreo

I don’t think we need it do we? Our oil comes from the US and Norway and the North Sea.

If that is the case why are our prices going up up up, 🤔

Trump continues to behave like a 2 year old stamping his foot and wanting to take his ball hold because no one wants to play with him. I personally think that the King should have a diplomatic illness and not go over there at all. The only celebration is if they threw Trump out and got an adult instead to be in charge. At least we have a prime minister who is aware of the legal situation and follows it. Good for Keir Starmer. As long as Trump carries on changing his mind from day to day , you cant trust a word he says.

Trump is full of vainglory and is having a tantrum as his allies haven't jumped to his command.
Are there any adults in his circle who can explain NATO to him.
All the insults and slurs he is flinging about remind me of a hormone ridden teenager. You won't do what I want so I hate you!

62Granny

Oreo

I don’t think we need it do we? Our oil comes from the US and Norway and the North Sea.

If that is the case why are our prices going up up up, 🤔

A very good point!

The first thing that came to my mind was - the US won’t be able to use our overseas airbases to launch attacks if they have no aviation fuel, I wonder if that has occurred to him?

I think oil and gas are traded on the global market so disruption in the middle east affects everyone.

What's reality has been to many of us, there from the very beginning fancythat.

Trump isn't fit for human company, never mind as POTUS. He's an idiot whose been played by Netanyahu, just as he's been played by Putin.

I doubt that has occurred to him Casdon; he's too stupid.

Aviation fuel has doubled in price since the war started so all flights will be affected.

One thing Trump does have in abundance is terminal stupidity.

Terminal Stupidity - The combination of three factors: Lack of knowledge, lack of wisdom, and lack of concern, that endangers the lives.

The Urban Dictionary:

Every day brings another classically stupid statement.

I think I has been decided that King Charles and Queen Camilla will go on the planned trip, madeleine45.
I don't envy them.

We really don’t need to be grateful to the U.S. fancythat. Contributions to NATO are based on GNP ( ? ). So of course they have to pay far more in than us or Europe. I wish someone would explain this to Trump, or perhaps they have and he doesn’t listen.

Yes the King’s visit is on, and I doubt Trump will be able to act like a normal person so obviously it will be difficult, perhaps the King and Queen will keep their time with Trump brief and talk about the weather or horses.

How do we suggest we show our 'gratitude'
Send our troops to the slaughter house, as sitting targets, as they try to take that island, to get Trump out of the disaster he and Netanyahu has created?
Would that be enough 'gratitude' in your opinion?

fancythat

NATO and its' citizens have been very ungrateful. In the past and now.
We reap what we sow.

Having said that, yes, Trump does not understand things he ought to.

He has done some very serious miscalculations.

I don’t understand your first sentence? Are you quoting Trump or do you truly believe NATO nations are “ungrateful”?

There’s no need for us to be “grateful”

NATO is fairly funded by a pre-agreed formula which til Trump appeared America never had an issue with.

In terms of other things like “loans” the UK has repaid its loan to the US in full and owes them nothing.

NATO members have equal representation and serve one purpose, defence.

Maremia

How do we suggest we show our 'gratitude'
Send our troops to the slaughter house, as sitting targets, as they try to take that island, to get Trump out of the disaster he and Netanyahu has created?
Would that be enough 'gratitude' in your opinion?

Nobody needs to show gratitude to the US, they have caused no end of instability and destruction in the ME, and regularly expected the UK and other western governments to sacrifice their armed forces in one conflict or another.
Trump likes to make out that the US has done more than any other nation, well, yes, they have, when it comes to making this world a whole lot more dangerous and the cost of living now sky high.
There is no largesse, the US has had their pound of flesh and some.

I agree Fallingstar how can we be grateful to the US for the wars they have involved us in and all the problems we will have due to this unplanned war.
We have lost enough of our brave military thanks to the US and why should we lose more to get them out of the mess they have made.

fancythat

The previously vocal posters on this forum, seem to be getting less vocal.
Is it all becoming too real?

I keep wanting to say, wakey wakey people.

There could be horrors to come. To the Uk.
And this year??

I guess maybe, each time we address your comments/issues/fears, you must by putting your fingers in your ears and lalala-ing.

There’s only so many times we can repeat the same comments:-

America agreed quite happily to the funding formula and agreed rules of NATO til Trump appeared.

We (UK) owe him and the USA nothing financially, nor at this point in time, morally.

Things will change once Trump is no longer POTUS.

We (UK) need to continue to forge stronger links with the EU and Canada.

Trump is a CB loose canon who’s hoping he can become more powerful by attacking countries he doesn’t like and countries he has no business attacking.

Yes, Trump could disrupt our oil supply, it would be a very foolish move on his part.

AI quotes:

“In 2026, the UK sources its oil primarily from a combination of domestic production in the North Sea (United Kingdom Continental Shelf - UKCS) and imports, with the United States and Norway being the top suppliers. While the UK produces significant oil, it remains a net importer, largely relying on international supply for diesel.
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Key details on UK oil supply in 2026:
Domestic Production: North Sea production continues, though it is a mature basin, with roughly 93% of its total estimated reserves already extracted by early 2026.
Top Import Sources: The US and Norway are the largest suppliers of crude oil to the UK.
Import Dependency: The UK is a net importer of petroleum products, particularly diesel, which accounts for 40% of product imports.
Sector Outlook: Industry bodies like Offshore Energies UK (OEUK) highlight that while domestic production is declining, it remains critical to reducing reliance on imports, according to 2026 reports.
Supply Strategy: The UK government has restricted new oil and gas licenses but continues to support the development of existing fields.
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The UK maintains 90 days of oil stocks to ensure security of supply.”

The bottom line is we should never simply bow to all of Trump’s demands, this would be the beginning of the very end for the UK.

How do we suggest we show our 'gratitude'

By literally, saying as a Country
We are very grateful for the help you gave NATO in the past, and continue to give.
We dont agree with much of what you are doing right now however, and remind him the rules of NATO.

SueBdoo70

We really don’t need to be grateful to the U.S. fancythat. Contributions to NATO are based on GNP ( ? ). So of course they have to pay far more in than us or Europe. I wish someone would explain this to Trump, or perhaps they have and he doesn’t listen.

The US doesnt have to pay a thing.
They can leave if they choose.
Which I suspect is coming sooner rather than later.

And they can also work against NATO countires.
In bits or go the whole way.

Oreo

I don’t think we need it do we? Our oil comes from the US and Norway and the North Sea.

That being correct, Oreo, yet another reason for someone to stand up and shout to Mr Trump and his cronies Clear Up Your Own Mess

fancythat

^How do we suggest we show our 'gratitude'^

By literally, saying as a Country
We are very grateful for the help you gave NATO in the past, and continue to give.
We dont agree with much of what you are doing right now however, and remind him the rules of NATO.

What help would that be? The only country that has asked for and had help from NATO is the US after 9/11

The UK +around 30 countries are in discussion about how to negotiate opening the Strait of Hormus. This doesn't include USA, probably what's rattling Trump's ego.

NATO may continue to get the US funding.
And the "special relationship" may not be eroded to the point of the US fires against Uk.
Cant really see that happening any time soon.
But never say never.