The King is interfering in the Democratic process in the USA

eazybee

What utter nonsense. The King has been invited by Trump, and does his duty to his country as best he may; doubtless his diplomatic skills and good manners will go some way to alleviate the very poor impression Starmer has created.

In what way has Starmer created a poor impression? And with whom?

You'd wish Covid on someone?

TwiceAsNice

I agree he shouldn’t go. Surely they could pretend his health isn’t good enough. Trump is a maniac and I don’t know why we are pretending he isn’t . Besides all the things that went before he went into Iran with no plan for getting out. Utter madness!

I agree. A convenient bout of ‘Covid’ would prevent him from travelling.

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A very wise and erudite comment.
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Of course it won't be seen as endorsing Trumps behaviour.!

Our King has to go where our Government send him don't you know! it will be a cordial visit!

sandye

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

And I will requote Iam64's post too:

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

This sums it up perfectly Iam64!!

Why can't people understand that?

sandye

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

Unfortunately insulting that evil malignant blob who has the code to the nuclear button… is not a good idea.
Charles can be diplomatic enough whilst still carefully expressing his displeasure with the naughty toddler!

sandye

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

As I said in my poet above (which obviously you have not read)

The USA is more than Trump.
And will survive Trump.

He is just a blip in in the passage of time.

Allira

*To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds*

This sums it up perfectly Iam64!!

Hear hear! The King and Queen will cope, and they are going for the Americans who are celebrating their country's 250th anniversary, not for the orange menace. The USA will eventually recover, I hope, from the current horrible situation.

Grandmabatty

He's hardly interfering in usa democratic process. He was invited by the president and is going. Much as I feel he shouldn't go, diplomatically it is probably the correct action to take.

Agree… Trump being the petulant and DANGEROUS toddler that he is would be bound to take a slight like that out of the UK, and whilst this Madman is still in charge we need to placate him somewhat.
With a bit of luck Charles, being the upright and democratic man he seems to be, will have a few ‘polite’ barbs to carefully plant in Trumps tiny undamaged little ears!

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

We should count ourselves lucky that we are not the King or Queen.

knspol

Considering the state of the relationship between the US and the UK at the moment it's probably a good thing that he is going as he may be able to improve the situation as Trump really does seem to care about the monarchy.
Having said that I also agree that it will look to many people that he is endorsing Trump's actions. The alternative though would be to refuse with some sort of excuse that wouldn't be believed and that would cause a lot of resentment and ill feeeing. The King can't win whatever he does.

The USA is more than Trump.

He is just a blip in in the passage of time.

History would just point out that the decline of the UK's position in the world

Nothing lasts for ever.

Considering the state of the relationship between the US and the UK at the moment it's probably a good thing that he is going as he may be able to improve the situation as Trump really does seem to care about the monarchy.
Having said that I also agree that it will look to many people that he is endorsing Trump's actions. The alternative though would be to refuse with some sort of excuse that wouldn't be believed and that would cause a lot of resentment and ill feeeing. The King can't win whatever he does.

Poetic justice would be a pothole on the tarmac tripping him up and dropping his crown if that were the case Astitchintime. Our King and Queen would have to stifle their laughter.

Trump will put his own spin on the visit! No doubt he will greet the King and Queen on the tarmac wearing his own crown and ermine trimmed cloak and behave like the total buffoon that he is! I’d put money on him walking in front of the King too…….remember how he behaved during his visit to the UK when the late Queen was alive!

Diplomacy takes the long term view. The trip is about the 250th anniversary of the founding of the US. Not something you can put off till the next one. History would just point out that the decline of the UK's position in the world finally reached bottom when the King failed to attend the celebrations.

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

This sums it up perfectly Iam64!!

The King is going to help celebrate the American Independence celebrations.

It has nothing to do with endorsing Trump and that is a ludicrous suggestion.
Goodness knows what Charles may be thinking but he will be too diplomatic to say so.
I hope Camilla manages to keep a straight face if Trump starts burbling his usual verbal diarrhoea.

Ladyleftfieldlover

One way out of this deplorable situation would be to say the King is unwell and send a very lowly Royal. There’s plenty of them after all - maybe one of the Kent grandchildren.

To lie about the King’s health would be totally wrong.

Apart from anything else, it would trigger unnecessary speculation.

If he doesn’t go, it should be for legitimate reasons, not lies.

Ode to Duty (Wo0rdsworth)

. Stern Daughter of the Voice of God!
O Duty! if that name thou love
Who art a light to guide, a rod
To check the erring, and reprove;
Thou, who art victory and law
When empty terrors overawe;
From vain temptations dost set free;
And calm'st the weary strife of frail humanity!
There are who ask not if thine eye
Be on them; who, in love and truth,
Where no misgiving is, rely
Upon the genial sense of youth:
Glad Hearts! without reproach or blot;
Who do thy work, and know it not:
Oh! if through confidence misplaced
They fail, thy saving arms, dread Power! around them cast.

I agree that is overthought and misguided nonsense

eazybee

What utter nonsense. The King has been invited by Trump, and does his duty to his country as best he may; doubtless his diplomatic skills and good manners will go some way to alleviate the very poor impression Starmer has created.

I agree with Easybee. King Charles has good manners, diplomatic skill, and profound sense of duty

The fact that ther king would go whoever the POTUS might be (sane? Democrat?) shows that his visit is not an endorsement of the regime.

Starmer has been standing up to Trump over several things - and rightly so - and needs the king to continue with the visit to massage the silly man's ego by simply going.

I am sure the king is pig sick about the whole thing but it is how he earns his trillions and castles et al. So he will bite the bullet and do it in spite of being elderly and sick.