He’s Not the Messiah….

Visgir1

Apprently Trump as taken the image down.
He has said " the image was depicting him as a doctor "making people better", rather than as a Jesus-like figure.
He's accuses the media of having "come up" with that narrative.

Hahaha You simply couldn’t make this up!

Vintagewhine

Rubbish, Blair said nothing of the sort
His wife and children were Catholics and he converted in 2007 after stepping down as PM.

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He was accused of having a Messiah complex by former friends and colleagues.

Apologies about Jesus being Palestinian. I was echoing someone else and should have known better having gone to Sunday school for many years. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Blair did not believe he was the Messiah, or the Messiahs representative on earth.
I know threads meander but there’s no comparison between Blair and Trump ( ok an illegal war but even there Trump tops

I believe the term Messiah Complex is borrowed from psychology and ideed people may have this.

Unrelated to T and the Pope apart from the use of the word Messiah.

Allira

He was accused of having a Messiah complex by former friends and colleagues.

Must be true then.

Doing something because you believe it's the right thing to do is not due to having a Messiah complex Luckygirl.

I could never have imagined in my most fantastical dreams a person like Trump.
He defies logic, reason, and any kind of sane analysis. And to think that he is the President of the US is stranger than hearing a cat talk. I often think that he can’t be real, that I must be in a drug addled state in which a President poses as Jesus and people worship him as they would a religious prophet.
I am a woman who has lost her compass and is wondering what world she now inhabits.

You are not the only one Fallingstar. This world is not one I recognise or want my grandchildren to grow up into.

Trump is in a whole different league from Blair, but he did invade Iraq because he thought he was right ... and went against advice. And he turned out to be wrong.
That is why our political leaders need to be open to advice and evidence.
The succession of ayatollahs do what they do because they know they are right. It is not enough.
No political leader can be allowed to give free rein to what they believe to be right.
There must be checks and balances.

Blair had parliamentary approval Luckygirl.

MollyNew

I will say it again - he's a despicable excuse for a human being. And yet he still dares to criticise anyone who disagrees with him. With a bit of luck, he'll get struck by lightning.

I wonder what JD Vance, a Catholic, has had to say about his comments regarding the Pope.

It must be assumed that this astonishing act of blasphemy is fully endorsed by Vance, otherwise why would he be silent?

He got that because he had a majority. But he misled them as has been shown subsequently.
And he was very clear that he did what he did because he believed he was right ignoring the evidence.
I was pleased when Blair became PM and appreciate some of his policies, but he did get led astray when it came to Iraq. He was led astray by his own pride. I was hugely disappointed in him.

Sorry... the above was a reply to smileless regarding Blair.

Trump's suggestion that he is shown as a doctor is just as ludicrous as the Jesus option. I have never heard any stories of him healing anyone. Perhaps he is thinking of his miraculously unscarred ear.

I'm not a fan of Blair but he shouldn't be compared to Trump.
Trump is unique.

Clearly they are world's apart, but Blair blotted his copybook by falling back on doing something very serious because he thought it was right, flying in the face of advice.
This is a parallel with Trump. Clearly the total insanity is not a parallel.

Luckygirl3

Trump is in a whole different league from Blair, but he did invade Iraq because he thought he was right ... and went against advice. And he turned out to be wrong.
That is why our political leaders need to be open to advice and evidence.
The succession of ayatollahs do what they do because they know they are right. It is not enough.
No political leader can be allowed to give free rein to what they believe to be right.
There must be checks and balances.

I reckon Trump attacked Iran because he wanted to & he thought it would make him look good with the MAGA crew - then because it was him who'd decided to do it, it must be right.

That's a lot different to someone knowledgeable & with their country's interests in mind being too sure that they've made the right decision because they've begun to feel infallible (Maggie Thatcher got like this towards the end too).

I agree. That creeping sense of infallibility is what the checks and balances should be for. But sadly they sometimes fail.
In Trump's case they have been failing from day one. There seems to be some sort of collective insanity operating.

I second valdali’s comments about Blair. He did go and get parliamentary support, not something even a majority would approve if uncertain. I marched against the invasion, strongly opposed in the belief generations would pay for what we did.

He is an embarrassment. Will be a stain on history forever. What he has done to The Whitehouse is appalling.

Trump is nothing like Blair. Indeed Trump seems unique - dangerous and frankly crazy is the word that springs to mind

That image he posted showing himself as the messiah, then ridiculing news outlets saying they were ridiculous, anyone could see he was portraying himself as a doctor

Every day another unbelievable truth. Bond villain or wicked pantomime villain except it’s not in the least funny. It’s truly frightening

Vance is keeping a low profile because so many people are pointing out that he was not successful in any of his foreign relations trips ever recently.

I do find it incredible that more Republicans are not standing up to him. It's as if he has people captivated in some way.

Out of fear? It has the most awful echos of past dictators who ruled by fear and ended up committing the most appalling crimes.