When is a royal tour, not a royal tour?

Granatlast

If by the ‘horribly spoilt youngest boy’ you mean Andrew, you’ve got the wrong son.

Edward is the youngest, and not guilty of the above.

Calendargirl

Granatlast

If by the ‘horribly spoilt youngest boy’ you mean Andrew, you’ve got the wrong son.

Edward is the youngest, and not guilty of the above.

😂 Oh dear!

Just to clear up another point, the Last Post Ceremony apparently happens daily in Canberra. I'm not sure why The Guardian, no less, referred to it as Anzac Day in the list of engagements I took from there? Apologies, my knowledge of Australia is a bit lacking.

I happened to see the other day that there's a bit of friction between William and Camilla.

Oh, so it's fine for you to happen to see apparent flaws in Windsor family relationships Granatlast007. We just happen to see a quasi royal tour, no more no less!

Absolutely desperate for attention these two, despite pleading for privacy.
Many Australians are saying that they are using Oz like an ATM machine by incorporating money making exercises alongside charity events. I wonder if they will pay for their police protection or expect the Australian tax payer to fund it.
Now cold shouldered by Netflix and Co and with her jams not taking over the world she must be wondering what next.

Granatlast007

Just to sprinkle a little kindness amongst the harshness and to remind people that GN has its own estrangement thread and here we have sight of the outcome of a really troubled family.

The matriarch tells her oldest son who to marry, no argument. His sister also had her relationships and marriage interfered with by her mother. So the lad packed off to a harsh boarding school does as he's told, marries a woman he doesn't love but who his mother thinks will be a tame, well behaved breeder, son quickly resumes affair with long term mistress who he wasn't allowed to marry.

And not to be forgotten is the gin-ridden grandmother and horribly spoilt youngest boy who turned into a monstrous perverted abuser hanging about with unpleasant, too rich types who describe trafficked children as whores.

The breeder did her job and two boys lived with their acrimonious parents and dad's bit on the side until mum died in an accident and the boys were expected to parade behind their mother's coffin in full sight of millions and never shed a tear.

Is it any wonder that Harry was/is so messed up? I happened to see the other day that there's a bit of friction between William and Camilla and that Charles will never speak to his ostracised younger brother again. What a shambles, maybe this should be discussed on the estrangement thread, no wonder over 50% of young people now think we no longer need a Royal family. I feel sorry for Harry, there's no real love in the Windsor family and not much out in the world either.

I could not have put it better.

Some believe everything they read in the newspapers

There was a petition against their visit because taxpayers are footing the bill for security. Not many here like them. Especially her.

nanna8

There was a petition against their visit because taxpayers are footing the bill for security. Not many here like them. Especially her.

Yes, I read that. They can't seem to accept that neither of them are no longer very important. I can't see why they need beefed up security.

Granatlast007 If your post is meant to sprinkle a little kindness amongst the harshness then I'd hate to read when you're being unkind! And it always pays to be accurate in your accusations. As Calendargirl has already pointed out Andrew is not the youngest boy.

You forgot, in your diatribe, to mention mummy's promiscuous behaviour leading to doubts about Harry's parentage.

Anniebach

Some believe everything they read in the newspapers

😀

Some like to take the truth, leave out some and embellish the rest with fabpntssy and hatred.
It makes a good story but then so does the actual truth!

nanna8

There was a petition against their visit because taxpayers are footing the bill for security. Not many here like them. Especially her.

Ooh, they are lucky.
Security was not paid for here after they became non-working, a bone of contention for Harry and he has had it reinstated on visits here.

I don’t think Harry is doing Archie any favours by publicly declaring that he felt a disconnection between them while Meghan was pregnant, struggled with fatherhood and needed to ‘cleanse’ himself of his past.

Poor kid, having such a self obsessed father and a mother who encourages it.

I seem to remember that pre Meghan, Harry made no secret of the fact that he couldn’t wait to have children of his own. 🤔

The OP feels like a classic case of framing shaping perception.

What’s being described here; hospital visits, meeting vulnerable communities, attending memorial ceremonies, supporting veteran initiatives like the Invictus Games, is exactly what royal tours have traditionally involved. Whether it’s members of the Royal Family visiting Commonwealth countries or representing the UK abroad, the role is largely symbolic, humanitarian, and diplomatic rather than overtly political.

By listing these activities in a slightly dismissive way, the question reframes them as trivial or performative but in reality, they’re central to what these tours are meant to achieve: visibility for causes, soft diplomacy, and public engagement.

It’s also worth noting that if Harry and Meghan had behaved in a more explicitly political way, they would almost certainly have been criticised for overstepping their roles. Royals are expected to be carefully neutral, so their influence comes through exactly these kinds of engagements.

You are framing simply in order to influence belief in your personal opinion - that is never the whole truth.

MartavTaurus

Calendargirl

Granatlast

If by the ‘horribly spoilt youngest boy’ you mean Andrew, you’ve got the wrong son.

Edward is the youngest, and not guilty of the above.

😂 Oh dear!

Just to clear up another point, the Last Post Ceremony apparently happens daily in Canberra. I'm not sure why The Guardian, no less, referred to it as Anzac Day in the list of engagements I took from there? Apologies, my knowledge of Australia is a bit lacking.

Just to clear up another point, the Last Post Ceremony apparently happens daily in Canberra. I'm not sure why The Guardian, no less, referred to it as Anzac Day in the list of engagements I took from there? Apologies, my knowledge of Australia is a bit lacking.

Gallipoli/Anzac Day is next week, 25th April.

Yes, it is at 4.30pm in Canberra but not at dawn. Did they visit Canberra? I am not really following their progress.

The Guardian is not infallible but I am surprised at this faux pas. The reason I had a "discussion" with them a few years ago was about some erroneous information they printed about an event in Australia. Sensationalism on their part.

performative 😆

You are framing simply in order to influence belief in your personal opinion

Here we go again. My monthly bashing from DAR for staging my opening posts in a performative manner, and being attention seeking!
Whatever!

I thought a quick visit to Canberra was mentioned on the News, to be happening at the end of the tour.

My DD lives there, she went to the War Memorial and saw the King and Queen when they visited.

Somehow, I don’t think she’ll be bothering to go see H&M.

DaisyAnneReturns

The OP feels like a classic case of framing shaping perception.

What’s being described here; hospital visits, meeting vulnerable communities, attending memorial ceremonies, supporting veteran initiatives like the Invictus Games, is exactly what royal tours have traditionally involved. Whether it’s members of the Royal Family visiting Commonwealth countries or representing the UK abroad, the role is largely symbolic, humanitarian, and diplomatic rather than overtly political.

By listing these activities in a slightly dismissive way, the question reframes them as trivial or performative but in reality, they’re central to what these tours are meant to achieve: visibility for causes, soft diplomacy, and public engagement.

It’s also worth noting that if Harry and Meghan had behaved in a more explicitly political way, they would almost certainly have been criticised for overstepping their roles. Royals are expected to be carefully neutral, so their influence comes through exactly these kinds of engagements.

You are framing simply in order to influence belief in your personal opinion - that is never the whole truth.

They are not working Royals!
That is the whole point.

The OP is perfectly correct in framing the question in the way she did.

performative is this the latest buzz word on GN? 😀

Calendargirl

I thought a quick visit to Canberra was mentioned on the News, to be happening at the end of the tour.

My DD lives there, she went to the War Memorial and saw the King and Queen when they visited.

Somehow, I don’t think she’ll be bothering to go see H&M.

DD visits Canberra sometimes with her work.
Must ask her if she was invited!

merlotgran

I don’t think Harry is doing Archie any favours by publicly declaring that he felt a disconnection between them while Meghan was pregnant, struggled with fatherhood and needed to ‘cleanse’ himself of his past.

Poor kid, having such a self obsessed father and a mother who encourages it.

I seem to remember that pre Meghan, Harry made no secret of the fact that he couldn’t wait to have children of his own. 🤔

I remember Harry saying that, especially after William became a Dad. I also remember Harry as a Jack-the-Lad character, often kicking over the traces but always with a smile on his face. As a nation we indulged him and forgave his errors (Nazi uniform) because so many of us thought of that woebegone little boy following his Mum's coffin. We had a soft spot for him. Now, he cuts a rather forlorn figure. I wonder if he is truly happy with his life.

Yes, it is at 4.30pm in Canberra but not at dawn. Did they visit Canberra? I am not really following their progress.
I'm not sure where they are on the tour. I'm reading about them perfunctorily, (not performatively), from a foreign country where I'm waiting to order my lunch! 🥞

"performative is this the latest buzz word on GN?"

No it's common in many people's vocabulary Allira.

I'm perplexed as to why, after almost 7 years and numerous overseas trips, Megan still grips onto Harry as though he's about to fly away.

The OP feels like a classic case of framing shaping perception
Funny- I thought it was just asking a question and suggesting an opinion?🤪🤪🤪

DaisyAnneReturns

"performative is this the latest buzz word on GN?"

No it's common in many people's vocabulary Allira.

Buzz word - definitely
Like "existential" - makes you look clever!🤓