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King Charles - job well done

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Wyllow3 Tue 28-Apr-26 20:54:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4g5lly7qg8t#player

I watched it all, there is a summary on the page above.

He did quite a bit of challenging, more than expected.

Most significant:

Praised an Independent Judiciary. And the whole house applauded on their feet, not just the democrats. Mentioned the need for checks and balances on power

Raised climate change pretty strongly

Nato needed co-operation inc Europe not nations standing alone - he reminded the US on cooperation after 9/11.

Total need to support Ukraine (hint, hint)

Not to be inward looking.

This was one very very clever and well researched and written speech. Clear, articulate, and clever - It went down very well and he is clearly respected, it will be interesting to see what the US press make of it.

Casdon Wed 29-Apr-26 13:23:48

I spotted that Charles was the one wearing the clothes, I expect most other people did too.

AGAA4 Wed 29-Apr-26 13:29:27

Luckygirl3

*Trump subsequently has posted a photo of them together with the caption “two kings” ( yuk).* ..... seriously?!

😂😂😂 Trump would love to be a king! He does have Royalty envy.

Norah Wed 29-Apr-26 13:42:39

Whitewavemark2

I do hope that the U.K. doesn’t twiddle around, still thinking that we can save this special relationship.

We can’t.

Not even I suspect if the Democrats get in next time.

We must plough our own furrow and look to our best interests, both in defence, trade and geo-political relationships.

Canada is doing just that, and looking towards Europe. We would be sensible to follow this example.

There is no special relationship. There never has been.

Bestgrammaever Wed 29-Apr-26 13:43:12

I am really excited that he did this - it was excellent. It's about time somebody said those things. I can only hope it sticks to some of the Republican congressional reps. I'm in the US.

Allira Wed 29-Apr-26 13:49:33

vegansrock

I’m not a monarchist remotely but well done Charles and his speechwriters. I wonder if Trump understood the message though. Trump subsequently has posted a photo of them together with the caption “two kings” ( yuk).

Oh, for goodness' sake.
He is delusional.

Buckingham Palace also had to issue a clarification of what Trump claimed King Charles said about stopping Iran having nuclear weapons.
We know he will not have said exactly that.

NLnanna Wed 29-Apr-26 13:51:15

I was against the King going to the USA, but I have to say that he has, very politely, thrown some serious shade at Trump and his administration. Respect!!
Oh and doesn't the Queen look great. Gorgeous outfits and jewels!!

Allira Wed 29-Apr-26 13:51:33

Cossy

Casdon

So what you’re saying MartavTaurus is that the King wrote his own speech, and therefore proves by his words that he’d be a Labour voter if he was an ordinary citizen. Yay to that.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I'd think he'd be leader of the Green Party if he could choose!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Apr-26 13:54:24

Norah

Whitewavemark2

I do hope that the U.K. doesn’t twiddle around, still thinking that we can save this special relationship.

We can’t.

Not even I suspect if the Democrats get in next time.

We must plough our own furrow and look to our best interests, both in defence, trade and geo-political relationships.

Canada is doing just that, and looking towards Europe. We would be sensible to follow this example.

There is no special relationship. There never has been.

I think for a brief period, post war, it was intended that the USA would be the leader of the free liberal world, and leader of like minded countries with shared values. The U.K. had under the leadership of Churchill thought that we stood as close partners with the USA under the umbrella of a special relationship, where the USA called the shots and we tabbed along.

That of course lasted no longer than Suez and myriad other situations which strained the relationship, although there were notable instances like Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo where we trooped in to aid the USA.

But anyone with any sense knows that this relationship with another country whose culture and interest are so different to ours is never going to last.

Now it is completely broken.

Allira Wed 29-Apr-26 14:03:07

That of course lasted no longer than Suez and myriad other situations which strained the relationship, although there were notable instances like Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo where we trooped in to aid the USA.

Kosovo was a NATO mission.
The UK went into Afghanistan as a NATO ally of the US. NATO allies were involved after Article 5 was invoked after 9/11.
The Iraq war caused divisions within NATO (and here at home).

Trump has now trashed NATO.

Norah Wed 29-Apr-26 14:13:53

I wonder if POTUS heard 'Tale of Two Cities' reference.

missdeke Wed 29-Apr-26 14:16:43

What I got from the speech was that Trump's massively over inflated ego would not allow him to realise that some of our King's comments were actually chastising him. Trump just thinks the King is agreeing with him.

Susieq62 Wed 29-Apr-26 14:17:22

I was overwhelmingly proud of KC and his speech ! It was very effective with great hints of what can be achieved in the future ! I also have a lot of respect for The Pope despite not being at all religious ! Increasing to hear articulate, intelligent and compassionate speeches by both ! The standing ovation for the King was so deserved !

Grandma2002 Wed 29-Apr-26 14:39:35

Whoever wrote or prepared the speech the king delivered it gracefully and personally and in a very dignified manner. I for one was very proud of him.

Harris27 Wed 29-Apr-26 14:54:23

Well done King Charles you’ve done us proud.

monami Wed 29-Apr-26 14:55:07

yes he has excellent speech writers,

Magenta8 Wed 29-Apr-26 15:06:40

I expect to Charles and Camilla these four days seem like an eternity.

OldFrill Wed 29-Apr-26 15:20:55

Allira

vegansrock

I’m not a monarchist remotely but well done Charles and his speechwriters. I wonder if Trump understood the message though. Trump subsequently has posted a photo of them together with the caption “two kings” ( yuk).

Oh, for goodness' sake.
He is delusional.

Buckingham Palace also had to issue a clarification of what Trump claimed King Charles said about stopping Iran having nuclear weapons.
We know he will not have said exactly that.

l wonder if Trump understood the message

I doubt Trump has read or listened to the speech and none of his lackeys are likely to discuss nuances with him.

Oreo Wed 29-Apr-26 15:29:25

Grandma2002

Whoever wrote or prepared the speech the king delivered it gracefully and personally and in a very dignified manner. I for one was very proud of him.

Same here 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Allira Wed 29-Apr-26 15:29:49

OldFrill

Allira

vegansrock

I’m not a monarchist remotely but well done Charles and his speechwriters. I wonder if Trump understood the message though. Trump subsequently has posted a photo of them together with the caption “two kings” ( yuk).

Oh, for goodness' sake.
He is delusional.

Buckingham Palace also had to issue a clarification of what Trump claimed King Charles said about stopping Iran having nuclear weapons.
We know he will not have said exactly that.

l wonder if Trump understood the message

I doubt Trump has read or listened to the speech and none of his lackeys are likely to discuss nuances with him.

Btw, the Oh, for goodness' sake was meant for Trump, not vegansrock!

There several words in the speech which were of more than one syllable; even if he read it I doubt that he would understand much of it or the subtleties in it.

suelld Wed 29-Apr-26 15:36:26

ferry23

An outstanding example of how the soft diplomacy of our Royal Family makes it so valuable. The naysayers with their old chestnuts of "parasites", "scroungers" etc fail to see the less than obvious through their one dimensional spectacles or just simply don't really understand how powerful the Royals can be on the international stage. They are the original "influencers".

Hear hear. Although obviously there are SOME members of the larger Royal Family who don’t deserve the accolades that Charles is currently and deservedly receiving. Well done that lad!

merlotgran Wed 29-Apr-26 15:39:32

monami

yes he has excellent speech writers,

They know him well. It was pure magic.

sixandahalf Wed 29-Apr-26 16:04:55

Luckygirl3

*Trump subsequently has posted a photo of them together with the caption “two kings” ( yuk).* ..... seriously?!

Yes but one of them isn't bombing the hell out of innocent civilians with no end in sight.

There is no end to his arrogance.

Sleepyhead52 Wed 29-Apr-26 17:15:20

I watched a bit of GB News (I watch other news channels as well, for balance!) and I just wished the commentatos would stop saying that the president was so "in awe" of the king. That almost demeans the president; he was respectful, courteous and 'careful' around the king but "in awe"? Not really ... and I am not a particular supporter of Mr Trump.

grannybuy Wed 29-Apr-26 18:16:56

The king really was impressive. It struck me that Melania seemed to be enjoying the occasions, and was smiling more than usual.

Luckygirl3 Wed 29-Apr-26 18:58:45

Maybe Melania was enjoying someone who did not kowtow to her OH for a change even if the Orange One probably missed what was really being said.