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Is democracy being by-passed in favour of the billionaires?

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-May-26 09:22:45

In 2021 Nigel Farage announced that he was quitting politics for good and stepped back from the leadership of reform. However shortly after Harbourne gave him £5 million Farage announced that he was returning to politics pdq.

Harbourne - a Thailand based billionaire then bankrolled Reform to the tune of £9 million, and Farage was also better off by £5million.

Reform acts as a non-profit making company with the directors being Farage and Yusuf.

Harbourne pays no tax in U.K. and is a Thai citizen registered under a Thai name, and has been fighting charges of money laundering, fraud and financing terrorism in the USA.

Reform is now the most wealthy political party in the U.K.

No political party was able to match the spend of reform during the recent local elections, and I worry that those with the most accumulated wealth are now able to acquire influence in our politics above and beyond the democratic process.

This calls I think for a complete overhaul on the way political parties are funded.

Graphite Tue 12-May-26 20:35:29

Is democracy being by-passed in favour of the billionaires?

It certainly sounds like it has been seriously and potentially criminally influenced by one particular billionaire.

The was in November 2019.

Nigel Farage has ditched plans to take on the Tories in more than 300 seats, after what he said was Boris Johnson's "shift of position" on Brexit. The [Brexit] party will not now stand in 317 seats won by the Tories in 2017, but will continue to stand elsewhere.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50377396

Obviously, the disaster of Johnson’s premiership (accurately predicted by Max Hastings) and what followed was a major factor in the Tories performance in the 2024 election but one also has to wonder what the result of the 2019 election might have been under FPTP had Farage, as it is now being alleged by Habib, not been paid a million pounds by Harborne not to contest 317 of those seats.

In 2024, it was Reform splitting the right wing vote that gave the Labour such a huge majority in Parliament. Labour won more than double the number of seats in 2024 on fewer votes that they received in 2019.

ginnycomelately Tue 12-May-26 20:55:38

Farage is a dishonest yes I agree with all said above about him , we’re sleep walking into a nightmare

M0nica Tue 12-May-26 21:03:32

Whitewavemark2

But I’m not clear that regarding Farage it is all out in the open and transparent - in fact I’m sure there is much we don’t know.

His Russian connection

His Breitbart Connection

His connection to Cambridge Analytica

These are just scratching the surface.

No we don't ,but we do know he is not sueaky clean, that he is a grifter and that anything he does or says needs to be closely scrutinised.

The ones we need to be most afraid of is those parading their virute while gettingup to dirty deeds behind the curtains.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-May-26 06:42:03

But the question must be - does the acceptance of a new suit or specs by-pass the democratic process? I would argue that it may not reach the standards expected by the voter of the politician, but it pales into insignificance when giving consideration to the millions being proffered to Reform, Farage and Johnson by one individual, who, it appears, has been instrumental in influencing the result in more than one election.

M0nica Wed 13-May-26 07:13:24

We won't agree. I will leave it at that.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 13-May-26 08:52:23

Farage failed to declare the use of a helicopter as he flew around the U.K. multiple times to reform rallies.

Maremia Wed 13-May-26 10:49:40

Money not declared, which is against the rules.
Why not declared?
Why not follow the current rules in the country you hope to govern?