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Starmer’s Speech today.

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Primrose53 Mon 11-May-26 11:40:44

A report on BBC

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cevp4kr79e4o

Some of the comments are hilarious and there are plenty of them.

A commentator on TV just said despite rolling up his shirt sleeves and not wearing a tie, KS is still more wooden than Sherwood Forest. 🤣

I will give him some credit though because he didn’t consult his notes and he didn’t mention his Father, the Toolmaker although he very nearly did.

Oreo Tue 12-May-26 10:05:18

Excellent comments eazybeešŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»šŸ‘šŸ»

AGAA4 Tue 12-May-26 10:07:24

eazybee bringing Starmer's family into this is really not on!

MT62 Tue 12-May-26 10:07:33

GrannyGravy13

The breathalyser was introduced into the U.K. October 8th 1967 to coincide with The Road Safety Act.

This is when the blood alcohol limit was introduced.

Few coppers were members of our golf club. I seem to remember one, or two of them drinking & driving.
They weren’t as hot on drink driving back in the day.

sixandahalf Tue 12-May-26 10:08:28

Perhaps Lord Alli will instal them in a luxury flat as he did two years ago

I'm so glad I don't know you in RL.

Vile. This is bringing out the absolute worst in people.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 10:10:06

OK, just to show a serious side, and by the way, I'm not the one who started the potato/kipper comments, though I'll take some flak!

I didn't hate Starmer from the get-go. I was prepared to give him a fair chance. He caused me to be over £10k a year out of pocket with the 20% VAT on on school fees for my DDC in one family, but hey ho, that's my choice and there's far more important things to worry about. I've never complained on here since.

However, since schools were mentioned, my point would be, where had this windfall from school fees been spent? Certainly not on education, my other DGD at state secondary has had modern languages removed from GCSE, no money available, and my DGS at Junior School has pretty much had sport removed from the curriculum because the school can't afford a PE specialist. The changes have all been downhill in our experience.

So, Starmer on the other hand, might have a point about change happening too slowly, but I'm not holding my breath for hundreds of new teachers to come onto the scene despite all the financial incentives on offer.

I want better education for all. But we'll have to wait and see what materislises while the current pupils suffer the cutbacks

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 10:12:21

Sorry for my typos, I'm in the car. (Not driving of course!)

Cossy Tue 12-May-26 10:14:43

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

He wears it, with his cap, to The Frinton Cricket Club, where no doubt he’ll make an appearance during Cricket Week in early August.

Cossy Tue 12-May-26 10:17:54

AGAA4

eazybee bringing Starmer's family into this is really not on!

In fact it’s pretty disgusting and ā€œhear sayā€ and malicious gossip, unless you’re a family friend?

Oreo Tue 12-May-26 10:21:16

Casdon

We can agree to differ Oreo. We are perilously close to a world war, and we are vulnerable, completely unprepared as a country. I’d rather our government concentrated on securing our future, and keeping us all safe, fed and healthy.

We can and should agree to differ.
Personally speaking, from all I have read I think Putin has had enough and simply wants something he can call a win, he’s rather like Trump in that respect.
It has highlighted to us all how militarily unprepared we are, you are right.
Money has to go into defence from here on in, that must happen.
As MaizieD writes, we have had many unelected PM’s , it’s hardly the end of the world.

Cossy Tue 12-May-26 10:22:14

MartavTaurus

OK, just to show a serious side, and by the way, I'm not the one who started the potato/kipper comments, though I'll take some flak!

I didn't hate Starmer from the get-go. I was prepared to give him a fair chance. He caused me to be over £10k a year out of pocket with the 20% VAT on on school fees for my DDC in one family, but hey ho, that's my choice and there's far more important things to worry about. I've never complained on here since.

However, since schools were mentioned, my point would be, where had this windfall from school fees been spent? Certainly not on education, my other DGD at state secondary has had modern languages removed from GCSE, no money available, and my DGS at Junior School has pretty much had sport removed from the curriculum because the school can't afford a PE specialist. The changes have all been downhill in our experience.

So, Starmer on the other hand, might have a point about change happening too slowly, but I'm not holding my breath for hundreds of new teachers to come onto the scene despite all the financial incentives on offer.

I want better education for all. But we'll have to wait and see what materislises while the current pupils suffer the cutbacks

I agree with you here, one of our DD is a primary school teacher in a deprived area. Due to issues with RAAC she had a class of 44 little ones for a year. The DoE didn’t release the required funds for temporary buildings.

Oreo Tue 12-May-26 10:22:19

Cossy

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

He wears it, with his cap, to The Frinton Cricket Club, where no doubt he’ll make an appearance during Cricket Week in early August.

…and this matters how?

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 10:22:54

Oreo

Actually I very much doubt that Farage really wants Starmer to go as he wants an unpopular PM in place at the next GE.

So why was the Reform council election slogan ā€˜ Starmer Out’? Oh silly me, it was to prove how much power he has in UK politics, a claim that Labour MP’s are now reinforcing….

LizzieDrip Tue 12-May-26 10:24:20

Why do none of them have the guts to standup and say 'We got it wrong and this is what we will do to put it right

M0nica I must be living in a different world to you, because that’s exactly what Keir Starmer did yesterday - saw it with my own eyes; heard it with my own ears.

Regarding the ugly, rude comments about the Prime Minister on this thread … they say more about the posters than the PM.

MartavTaurus Tue 12-May-26 10:27:08

I agree with you here, one of our DD is a primary school teacher in a deprived area. Due to issues with RAAC she had a class of 44 little ones for a year. The DoE didn’t release the required funds for temporary buildings.

Thank you Cossy. 44 children in one class, that's some challenge for your daughter! An impossible one, I'd say.

MayBee70 Tue 12-May-26 10:28:47

Oreo

Cossy

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

He wears it, with his cap, to The Frinton Cricket Club, where no doubt he’ll make an appearance during Cricket Week in early August.

…and this matters how?

It matters because it shows what a fraud he is. Beer swigging man of the working class one minute, friend of the farmers the next. Shows himself to be all things to all people when, in fact he’s just working for his uber rich backers.

Primrose53 Tue 12-May-26 10:30:10

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

Barbour jackets are designed to withstand mud and rain. My brother is outside in all weathers beating for pheasant shoots, metal detecting, walking, gardening etc and his decades old Barbour jacket is still as good as new.

MaizieD Tue 12-May-26 10:31:51

MayBee70

Oreo

Actually I very much doubt that Farage really wants Starmer to go as he wants an unpopular PM in place at the next GE.

So why was the Reform council election slogan ā€˜ Starmer Out’? Oh silly me, it was to prove how much power he has in UK politics, a claim that Labour MP’s are now reinforcing….

It wasa a very silly slogan really. Surely it is more in Farage's political interests to have a deeply unpopular PM remain?

If Starmer resigns there is a strong chance that his successor may be more overtly effective and more popular and give Farage a run for his money.

He might do well to remember Napoleon's maxim: "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself."

Oreo Tue 12-May-26 10:31:55

I have seen footage of Harold Wilson in his mac, pint in hand and waving an empty pipe in public when I have read he drank spirits in private and smoked cigars.
They’re props is all.

Oreo Tue 12-May-26 10:35:05

I suspect that Reform used the Starmer slogan to get more votes in the local elections but didn’t think that Starmer would actually have to step down.

twaddle Tue 12-May-26 10:35:38

AGAA4

I didn't vote Labour but this is a bad day for the country. The Tories destroyed themselves in a similar way.
This enables the mini Trump, Farage, to destroy our country even more.
People do want better but Brexit, the Pandemic and now a war in Iran is costing us dearly.
I don't think a new prime minister will magically reverse this. It will make things worse but so much damage has been done to Starmer that I doubt he will be able to carry on as PM.

I'm with you on that. I'm not a usual "Labour voter" although I did vote for Labour in the last election.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 12-May-26 10:37:01

I didn’t vote for this government (according to the news this morning they got 26% of the vote in the GE, which means 74%of the electorate were going to be unhappy from the get go)

I was hopeful that the no more sleaze and change promises might show improvements

Speaking from the point of a SME owner it hasn’t been great, no sign of the apprenticeship scheme filtering down to us. NI rise eats into dwindling profits, as has business rates, energy costs, road tax and don’t get me started on the increase in London Road and tunnel tolls 😔

I have waited 16 months for a bone scan and orthopaedic specialist appointment after an accident.

I do think that the PM has handled POTUS with some success.

Casdon Tue 12-May-26 10:58:00

Primrose53

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

Barbour jackets are designed to withstand mud and rain. My brother is outside in all weathers beating for pheasant shoots, metal detecting, walking, gardening etc and his decades old Barbour jacket is still as good as new.

šŸ˜ that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all morning.

Basgetti Tue 12-May-26 12:29:36

Putting rejoining the EU in their next manifesto, and announcing it now. I would suspect a second term if they did.

They surely realise that they will never appeal to Reform voters, so don’t try to placate them.

Basgetti Tue 12-May-26 12:30:42

Kandinsky

They say they have to change - but how?
They have to appeal to all the reform voters who took their votes & that’s more or less impossible for them.

Sorry, previous post in reply to Kandinsky’s above.

Primrose53 Tue 12-May-26 12:58:27

Casdon

Primrose53

Casdon

I’ve noticed that Farage sports a Barbour jacket that has never seen mud or rain in its life. Funny that.

Barbour jackets are designed to withstand mud and rain. My brother is outside in all weathers beating for pheasant shoots, metal detecting, walking, gardening etc and his decades old Barbour jacket is still as good as new.

šŸ˜ that’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all morning.

No need to be sarcastic. It’s the truth. Barbour jackets are expensive because they last and wear well. Maybe Primark is more your style. šŸ˜