So it begins….. Streeting resigns

I couldn't agree more. Politicians? I"ve seen better behaved school children and am thoroughly sick of the whole darn shower. The sad thing is, they lead our country and decide our futures and cant agree amongst themselves. But no matter what, politicians will all be ok one way or another whilst the rest of us struggle/muddle through.

I don’t believe that there will be an early general election. Farage thinks if he keeps saying it, it will happen, but what party, when unpopular and in power, has ever thrown the towel in? No, they hang on, hope it will get better, and know that they are the only ones who can call it, for as long as they have a majority - and the Labour majority is unassailable.

Ugh no nor me!!! Angela marbler mouth Rayner? Her tax affairs all conveniently sorted out , no case to answer, highly suspicious, , just in time for ? Andy Burnham being hailed as a saviour? How can either of these 2 turn the UK round where others fail

Babsbada

What a mess.
Streeting doing a good job, economy on the up and Starmer delivering in spite of stupid errors early on. They were elected with a huge majority have had barely two years to try and make up for the catastrophic under investment of the past 15 years. Give them the chance they deserve and stop this opportunistic personal ambition and disloyalty. The rebels are handing the country to vile, cheating racists taking their lead from Farage. Frightening and shameful.

I agree with this. It certainly is shameful. I believe there are outside forces interfering in our government. Those who want Farage as PM.

I'm fed up with the lot of them. They are supposed to be working for and looking out for us. Not seen much of this happening.
They are all out for themselves.

SaxonGrace

His slate can hardly be called clean , for starters he is the protege of Mandleson, I’ve read some of his tweets that are on X atm, they are unpleasant and some down right violent, he must be very annoyed they have resurfaced and will bite him in the bum. I’m fairly sick of the lot of them, as for Burnham, his history is hardly laudable, encouraging the hormone medicating of children and refusing to back inquiry into grooming gangs despite the pleas of many victims and children. A General Election may well be in Oder.

This article on the bbc site disputes your claim that Andy Burnham refused to back an enquiry.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c93l5y8v1pxo

It all beggars belief. Makerfield is far from a safe Labour seat and all they are doing is opening up the opportunity for Reform to get another MP into parliament, as they were a fairly close second to Labour last time.

They must be nuts.

I am torn between desperately wanting no more Reform MPs and thinking that Burnham deserves his bloody nose if that is what he gets.

It is all so unnecessary.

AGAA4

Babsbada

What a mess.
Streeting doing a good job, economy on the up and Starmer delivering in spite of stupid errors early on. They were elected with a huge majority have had barely two years to try and make up for the catastrophic under investment of the past 15 years. Give them the chance they deserve and stop this opportunistic personal ambition and disloyalty. The rebels are handing the country to vile, cheating racists taking their lead from Farage. Frightening and shameful.

I agree with this. It certainly is shameful. I believe there are outside forces interfering in our government. Those who want Farage as PM.

I agree. And I’ve been thinking this for a long time.

Goon show politics. But no one is laughing.

AGAA4 and Maybee, I mentioned this further back ,
There are certain newspapers which seemed determined to bring down the Labour Government right from the get go. Then we have the huge donations to Reform and individual ones to Farage.
I know some posters will say I've been watching too many spy films, but somethings are making me feel quite uneasy as they don't add up.

ronib

Goon show politics. But no one is laughing.

Totally agree politics seem more like a soap opera as each day progresses
As far as I am concerned I no longer give a toss what they do life is too short.

westendgirl

AGAA4 and Maybee, I mentioned this further back ,
There are certain newspapers which seemed determined to bring down the Labour Government right from the get go. Then we have the huge donations to Reform and individual ones to Farage.
I know some posters will say I've been watching too many spy films, but somethings are making me feel quite uneasy as they don't add up.

Remember the outside influences at play pre referendum. Cambridge Analytica, Bannon.

And Cummings was a disrupter.

There are certain newspapers which seemed determined to bring down the Labour Government right from the get go.

There is some truth in that statement but if Labour had kept to their promises of being absolutely determined to restore honesty and integrity to government" and Restoring Integrity the newspapers wouldn't have had anything to criticise them for. Instead they lied about pretty much everything from day one; exaggerating the £22 billion "black hole" in public finances for a start. After that, it's been one damned scandal after another: Rachel in Accounts lying about her CV, Rayner making "mistakes with her taxes", Starmer "not knowing" that Mandelson was a corrupt, lying sleaze when everyone knew that he'd been mired in dirty dealings for decades and was commonly known as the Prince of Darkness. Added to that, they've flip flopped around, making U turns so many times they became untrustworthy and ended up looking as though they were just the Tories #2. Yes, the press haven't helped but Labour is the architect of its own misery.

Words fail me when it comes to this government and the mess they’ve made. Do any politicians really care about the future of GB. I’m beginning to think not. What a lot they are!

I don’t think that most of that is on the scale of the misdemeanours made by the last government. With Mandelson, I think most people realised it was a case of fighting fire with fire but no one dares to say it, at least not while Trump is still in power. As for u turns, I don’t have a problem with politicians admitting that they’ve made a mistake and rectifying it. And the party that is favourite to win the next election is already snowed under with dirt and scandal that no one seems to be bothered about.

And the party that is favourite to win the next election is already snowed under with dirt and scandal that no one seems to be bothered about.

Well I'm bothered about it; Farage and Polanski are at opposite sides at the bottom of the same filthy barrel as far as I'm concerned. I too admire anyone who, having realised they've made a mistake, owns up to it and changes course. But 14(?) in 2 years is an awful lot! I'd hoped for so much from Starmer; he presented as a calm, capable and confident statesman who would have a clear vision of his aims and a firm hand on the tiller to achieve it and, he's just...... not. Bitterly disappointed and angry.

I am torn between desperately wanting no more Reform MPs and thinking that Burnham deserves his bloody nose if that is what he gets

I feel exactly the same LuckyGirl.

Obviously I don’t want Reform to win the by-election (can you imagine Farage’s smug grin) but it would serve Burnham right.

Apparently, Caroline Lucas is saying that the Greens shouldn’t put up a candidate so as not to split the Labour vote.

Again, I don’t think Burnham deserves yet another helping hand but …🤷‍♀️

Cardamom

^And the party that is favourite to win the next election is already snowed under with dirt and scandal that no one seems to be bothered about.^

Well I'm bothered about it; Farage and Polanski are at opposite sides at the bottom of the same filthy barrel as far as I'm concerned. I too admire anyone who, having realised they've made a mistake, owns up to it and changes course. But 14(?) in 2 years is an awful lot! I'd hoped for so much from Starmer; he presented as a calm, capable and confident statesman who would have a clear vision of his aims and a firm hand on the tiller to achieve it and, he's just...... not. Bitterly disappointed and angry.

But when the Conservatives got in all they gave us was austerity followed by Brexit. And yet they somehow managed to remain on power for 14 years albeit aided by Labour choosing Corbyn as leader.

a clear vision of his aims and a firm hand on the tiller to achieve it and, he's just...... not

What do you think has gone wrong?

I had a slither of hope.

I know MayBee70 I'm as dumbfounded as you are! And Starmer promised that all the intrigue, back stabbing and politicians with their snouts in the trough would stop. But it hasnt; it's just been a rinse and repeat of the Tories. I honestly don't know which party I now support; I'm politically homeless; deeply disillusioned and disappointed by Labour, totally lacking in the belief that the Conservative could run a raffle, let alone the country and utterly repelled and disgusted by Farage and Polanski.

Cardamom

I know MayBee70 I'm as dumbfounded as you are! And Starmer promised that all the intrigue, back stabbing and politicians with their snouts in the trough would stop. But it hasnt; it's just been a rinse and repeat of the Tories. I honestly don't know which party I now support; I'm politically homeless; deeply disillusioned and disappointed by Labour, totally lacking in the belief that the Conservative could run a raffle, let alone the country and utterly repelled and disgusted by Farage and Polanski.

I still think Starmer is a decent man who wants to do his best for the country. And they have, I believe, fulfilled a lot of the manifesto pledges. But the left of the party have always resented him. And the very people they are so concerned about are all voting Reform. We’re still suffering from Brexit, too, which no one will admit, although Keir is turning that around. Or was.

ruthiek

Browncow I just wish there was a coalition to put this country back in its feet at the moment it is so divided and there feels no hope

Have there been Countries were coalitions have been thought to be succsessful by most people?

For Whitewave, and anyone else on a similar wrong track, the "right wing press" doesn't hold that much sway any more, the press generally have had plummeting circulation for several decades.

The most read paper these days is the Metro -- seen much politics in there, have you?

TV has far more influence, and of the channels, BBC (still by far the most watched) usually gets moans for being allegedly too LEFT-wing, I've yet to see any preference from ITV (doesn't have many current affairs shows anyway - as they pander to Loose Women and that jungle drivel), and C4 News should come with a red border round the screen?

Oh, and the supposedly "right wing press" didn't have much effect at the last Gen Election, did it??

In 2025 the Express was recorded as having the biggest DECREASE in circulation -- sounds like the right wing is doing well???

Oh, and the i paper has been doing well, but it has no bias, carries reports and opinions from a variety of stances, so readers can make up their own mind -- if they have one of course. So that's encouraging??

Oh, and just to repeat, the same group publishes the Mirror AND the Express, as they know that people buy what they WANT to read, they DO NOT by and large buy a paper to be converted to another doctrine!! That has long been the case, whatever the bandwagon moans about Right or Left wing media!

I agree with this. It certainly is shameful. I believe there are outside forces interfering in our government. Those who want Farage as PM.

You may be right.

But the irony is, and I suspect why some people now have changed their voting, is that conspiracy theorists have been saying that for many years about both conservatives and Labour.