Unite the Kingdom and Pro Palestine marches Cup 16th May 2026

Primrose

You entered in a debate, and were quite outspoken, as you often are, and people responded in a similar manner.

You clearly have strong views, that’s ok, you’re not scared to express them, that’s also ok, but this is a public form and we are never ever going to always agree with other.

No one was being spiteful or telling you what to think, some of us feel passionately about our country, as you do too, but we all gave different views and angles.

No one here would deliberately single out one person and bully them them or be spiteful.

I feel it’s disingenuous for you to print this.

You’ve clearly had enough of this negate and have withdrawn, and that’s also ok.

Primrose I wouldn’t for one moment tell you what you should think and feel.

Far from it, you choose what you think and feel.

I don’t try to change anyone’s views regarding the Yaxley-Lennon marches. You support the marches - your choice.

Not sure why it’s ’rude and spiteful’ of me to disagree but, again, you do you.

Cossy
Just because you have no problem with how things are in certain communities that doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone - this is what you will never get.
Many people are worried about their country’s identity, they feel threatened, scared even. So they look for something - someone - anyone - who will listen to them & not brush them off as racist bigots. Granted, some might be, but the vast majority aren’t, they’re just ordinary people who aren’t happy with what’s happening in their country.
So they turn to someone who is listening, who will speak for them, even if that person is Tommy Robinson, because everyone else is ignoring them - including you.

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"Primrose53

To those who ask why people support TR - do you seriously think that all the thousands of people marching support him?"

Yes, I do. Unless they're really stupid, why on earth would anybody go to all the trouble of going on a march if they didn't support its aims? And if they didn't know the purpose of it after YL had advertised it, they really are stupid.

Primrose53

Dorisdodar

Mmm.. so do you think some of the people on the free Palestine marches don't mind being associated with the terrorist group Hamas?

Don’t expect an answer to that Dorisdodar.

Why? In words of one syllable, yes there will have been some on that march who are pro Hamas.

Just as there were some on the Unite March who are fascist.

Marches attract extremists.

LizzieDrip

You keep telling yourself that Primrose.

I will, thank you very much.
I think it is very rude and spiteful of those of you who keep trying to tell me how I should think and feel.

I don’t have to justify myself to any of you and I have been completely truthful.

Just leave me alone now.

Dorisdodar

Mmm.. so do you think some of the people on the free Palestine marches don't mind being associated with the terrorist group Hamas?

Ask yourself this, do Hamas organise and attend these marches? Do any Jewish people attend these marches?

Dorisdodar

Mmm.. so do you think some of the people on the free Palestine marches don't mind being associated with the terrorist group Hamas?

Don’t expect an answer to that Dorisdodar.

Primrose53

To those who ask why people support TR - do you seriously think that all the thousands of people marching support him? It was a march to show their displeasure and unhappiness about how our country is heading and also their disapproval of Starmer.

As I said in my earlier post there were people of all colours and creeds, Mums, Grandparents, Fathers, Businessmen, Farmers, jobless people, professional people, old and young alike. Just ordinary middle of the road people and not at all “far right” as the Left like to call them. They are the ones causing division by calling people offensive names and trying to ridicule people who do not share their views.

A massive cross section of people and many were interviewed on TV and said they were just fed up with the state of the country. If I could have gone those would be my reasons for attending too. Nothing to do with TR at all and I personally know many people who feel the same.

The problem with your response, as eloquent and feasible as it is, is that this wasn’t just a march that YL attended, he organised it and he spoke at it, along with Laurence Fox and others.

It wasn’t just a march of “fed up” voters, it was a march attended organised by and attended by many many flag waving, quite intimidating people.

Yes, you state, but the other marchers were also intimidating and shouting abuse, this too is wrong, but utterly irrelevant to the march organised by YL.

By all accounts everyone appeared to behave within the law bar a handful on both sides, for which I’m very grateful.

Why would people go to a rally organised by a controversial figure specifically to further his political agenda if they didn’t subscribe to his views? They must realise that other people would naturally assume that they supported him, and not be bothered by that.

If the march had been specifically billed as being a protest about the way we a re being governed I'd find your argument a bit more compelling Primrose. But it wasn't.

You keep telling yourself that Primrose.

valdali

The march was covered briefly on the News & TR was shown during the coverage. So it's not "nothing to do with" him, the marchers are people who don't mind being associated with him presumably.

I gave you my reasons for if I had attended and said that it was nothing to do with TR. Are you seriously suggesting that all those thousands of people were going there to support TR?

I will repeat that those I saw interviewed were just ordinary, concerned people like myself and most people I know.
Concerned about our country, our children and grandchildren and the way we are being governed.

Mmm.. so do you think some of the people on the free Palestine marches don't mind being associated with the terrorist group Hamas?

Maremia

There could be a rule/regulation brought in permitting only one march per day.
That could preserve our rights to protest peacefully.

I've at last understood why the two demonstrations happened on the same day which of course made no logistics sense as we have all been saying.

Every year there have been Nakba day demonstrations, some years quite small, for a very, very long time, whichever Saturday is closest to May 15th
It is, if you like, a "regular known booking".

But someone in the police sort of - well, wasnt aware/on the ball/didn't consult, whatever:

When Tommy Robinson came along to book Saturday 16th March,

whoever took the booking had not put "2 and 2 together" and the Nakba organisers had not yet put in the specifics.

So when the Nakba people made their booking, the "powers that be" could not cancel one or the other for obvious reasons

One might say, and I do indeed suspect, that Tommy Robinson knew quite well that Nakba demonstrations were going to take place since they have every year, and deliberately chose that day:

So I don't see it happening again. and the Wembley clash!

The march was covered briefly on the News & TR was shown during the coverage. So it's not "nothing to do with" him, the marchers are people who don't mind being associated with him presumably.

Primrose53. Exactly that. Well said!!

To those who ask why people support TR - do you seriously think that all the thousands of people marching support him? It was a march to show their displeasure and unhappiness about how our country is heading and also their disapproval of Starmer.

As I said in my earlier post there were people of all colours and creeds, Mums, Grandparents, Fathers, Businessmen, Farmers, jobless people, professional people, old and young alike. Just ordinary middle of the road people and not at all “far right” as the Left like to call them. They are the ones causing division by calling people offensive names and trying to ridicule people who do not share their views.

A massive cross section of people and many were interviewed on TV and said they were just fed up with the state of the country. If I could have gone those would be my reasons for attending too. Nothing to do with TR at all and I personally know many people who feel the same.

Kandinsky

For someone who doesn’t want to follow Tommy Robinson you know an awful lot about him 🤣

No one is forcing you to follow him.
It’s your choice.
Just like it’s the choice of 1000’s who love to follow him.
There’s nothing you can do about it.

Post of the day kadinsky 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Maremia

Such a pity you don't believe in Facebook, Kandinsky, otherwise you would be able to watch Yaxley Lennon's Battle of Britain speech yesterday.

I am the daughter of a WW2 fighter pilot and granddaughter of somebody who was awarded a CBE for his role in D Day (and extremely proud of it). Both my father and grandfather would be apoplectic if they were alive to hear Twerp Robinson's ranting about a Battle of Britain.

Great post * Cossy*

Good post @ 14.50, samwam.

Incidentally, I like to think you are all decent people here on Gransnet.

I don’t understand why anyone would support Yaxley-Lennon, he’s known to associate with, and at times join in with, people who call for violence.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with living in your country and wanting to preserve your country’s tradition and culture, or being proud of the achievements of your country.

With this pride though comes a responsibility to make our country a better place for all its citizens and residents, not simply the chosen ones.

We’re a decent and educated bunch on here, so please

1) don’t let us fall out arguing over people like YL, Trump & Farage, it’s exactly what these people want, divide and conquer, and 2) if there are any YL followers/supporters on here, can you explain why?

I can very easily explain why I don’t support the three aforementioned people:-

IMO, it doesn’t take half-truths and marches to attract supporters.

I don’t have any issues or problems living in an ethnically diverse community, in fact I welcome it.

I don’t have issues with people claiming Asylum here, if they don’t meet the criteria they need to be returned.

I have no issue with migration, nor with a points based system which looks to recruit people and their families with the skills and knowledge we as a country require.

I don’t care what colour someone’s skin is, what the faith is, how they speak, how they look.

It’s actions and deeds and keeping our laws which counts, at least to me.

Some of the kindest and most decent people I’ve met are not indigenous English folk. I also know great white British born and bred people.

There’s good and bad across all races/faiths/nationalities/colour.

To discriminate against any one person, any one group of people, is simply wrong, it doesn’t match my values, beliefs or moral compass, therefore can support or follow any person or group who believes this to be the right way to act.

Such a pity you don't believe in Facebook, Kandinsky, otherwise you would be able to watch Yaxley Lennon's Battle of Britain speech yesterday.