Gransnet forums

News & politics

Unite the Kingdom and Pro Palestine marches Cup 16th May 2026

(546 Posts)
GrannyGravy13 Fri 15-May-26 08:10:46

Just seen in the news that the Met re deploying 4,000 extra police officers in London tomorrow, including armoured vehicles on standby.

If they are that concerned why haven’t they taken action to stop these marches or made them into standing rally’s in contained areas?

Our beautiful capital city once more rendered a no go zone.

Added into the mix it’s also the F A Cup final at Wembley Stadium.

All in the week when London has been named the number one city in the world for culture šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

Oreo Tue 19-May-26 09:39:34

AGAA4

I remember the policeman telling the Jewish man he looked "overtly Jewish" and he was moving through the crowds taking photos of people. The policeman was trying to stop an incident as the Jewish man was being provocative.

Yes, it’s always the Jews being provocative isn't it? Not!
But irrespective of that incident, if anyone truly believes that there wasn’t hate in the pro Palestine march the other day then there’s no hope for them.It’s either they are hopelessly naive or hopelessly blinkered.There was hate too on the Unite the Kingdom march by the true supporters of TR but a lot of ordinary people who were there to protest a out the state of this country and poor government.
There were also ordinary people on the pro Palestine march who were just as good people as on the other march.In other words there were bad elements on both sides.

AGAA4 Tue 19-May-26 09:44:35

Oreo Don't twist what I posted. I didn't say it's always Jews being provocative just this man. I have and always will support Jews against antisemitism for reasons of my own.

Oreo Tue 19-May-26 09:47:07

Glad to hear that AGAA4 as it’s a rarity on these threads.

LizzieDrip Tue 19-May-26 09:47:53

Interesting that footage of the interaction between the police officer and the Jewish man was ā€˜all over the News - all channels’; yet the public racist, degradation of Muslim women at the YL rally … zilchšŸ¤”.

You have to actively search for it yourself on SM!

Oreo Tue 19-May-26 09:50:51

The interaction between the Jewish man and police was a couple of years ago.

LizzieDrip Tue 19-May-26 09:52:07

Yes I know.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 19-May-26 09:53:32

Whitewavemark2

twaddle

AGAA4

I can understand why people march for Palestine but can't condone any banners that invite hate.
The Unite the kingdom was solely about hate. It was divisive and dangerous stirring up trouble against Muslims and others. Unfortunately there are many people in this country who don't want Muslims here and they were on the march instigated by Yaxley-Lennon.

I agree with you absolutely. I think the police should have been more pro-active against the hate banners.

I can't imagine that anybody was on the YL march, who didn't know what it was all about - hate.

Yes exactly so.

There has, was and will be hate from both sides.

Religious hatred is rife in the M E, it has no place on the streets of the U.K.

silverlining48 Tue 19-May-26 09:53:55

It must be hard for Jews both in and out of Israel to see the criticism of their country by so many. Israel no longer has its decades long, post war ā€˜can never be criticised’ protection. The eyes of most of the world are now opened to Israel and its government has been judged.
I admire those Jews who are brave enough to support the Palestinian marches who get such a welcome and am heartened by groups of Israelis supporting Palestinians in the West Bank, as they, their fields and their homes are attacked and destroyed by those ā€˜settlers’ who wish to steal their land, while the IDF look on.
Many are young and will have to live with the horror of what they have seen and done for the rest of their lives.

foxie48 Tue 19-May-26 09:55:23

What does "global intifada" actually mean? Intifada means opposing the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory and adding global to it is basically asking the rest of the world to support the Palestinians in their struggle against oppression by Israel. It is not inherently anti semitic because it is the country Israel not Jewish people that is doing the oppression. I have absolutely no issue with supporting the intifada, what Israel has done in Gaza and the West Bank surely cannot be acceptable to any right minded people. Israel has imo committed war crimes and crimes against humanity as well as completely ignoring International law. I am not anti semitic, I do not support Hamas, Hezbollah or any other organisation that states they want to rid the world of Jews.The march last week was not anti semitic it was pro Palestinian in it's opposition to Israel.

The Unite the Kingdom march was organised and led by someone who has declared publicly on a number of occasions that he is Islamophobic and wants to get rid of Muslims from our country. He's also been a leading member of the now banned BNP, which was a fascist organisation started by neo Nazis, he's also been active in Pergida (Germany), trying to start a British branch. IMO people support TR and Unite the Kingdom because he gives credence to and legitimises their inherent racism and xenophobia. Followers say he says what they are thinking, so yes, we know what his followers are thinking don't we? Anyone who knows something about the rise of fascism and the Nazis in Germany will see the parallels. It's classic fascist tactics to wrap Nationalism and religion into the mix, we only have to look across the pond to see that. Unite the Kingdom and TR and his band of thugs should be called out at every possible opportunity and exposed for what they are. We stopped people smoking by publicising it's dangers not by excusing people by saying they smoke because they are stressed or because they have a crap life. I understand that some of our population has been "left behind" and feel angry and without a voice but I absolutely refuse to believe that trying to paint Unite the Kingdom as a benign organisation that cares about the disadvantaged in our society is in any way helpful. It is not, it is a divisive destructive organisation, led by a known fascist with a criminal record for thuggery and racism.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 19-May-26 09:59:21

One way of understanding what Robinson is about - just look at who supports him.

The Nazi party in Germany - AfD - constantly attempt to enter the U.K. to support Robinsons protest marches.

They are banned.

silverlining48 Tue 19-May-26 09:59:23

Well said foxie

GrannyGravy13 Tue 19-May-26 10:03:09

Whitewavemark2

One way of understanding what Robinson is about - just look at who supports him.

The Nazi party in Germany - AfD - constantly attempt to enter the U.K. to support Robinsons protest marches.

They are banned.

And so they should be.

I imagine that our secret service is keeping a close eye on Tommy Robinson, as he resides abroad, they can deny him entry if (when) they are concerned.

Oreo Tue 19-May-26 10:06:44

silverlining48

It must be hard for Jews both in and out of Israel to see the criticism of their country by so many. Israel no longer has its decades long, post war ā€˜can never be criticised’ protection. The eyes of most of the world are now opened to Israel and its government has been judged.
I admire those Jews who are brave enough to support the Palestinian marches who get such a welcome and am heartened by groups of Israelis supporting Palestinians in the West Bank, as they, their fields and their homes are attacked and destroyed by those ā€˜settlers’ who wish to steal their land, while the IDF look on.
Many are young and will have to live with the horror of what they have seen and done for the rest of their lives.

This is my country, England , so criticism of Israel isn’t criticism of my country.
Any country can be criticised but what Jews here don’t expect is anger directed at themselves for it ( well, actually we do expect it as it’s the norm here now.)
The antisemites are in full flow, many hiding behind pro Palestine objectives.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 19-May-26 10:06:53

silverlining48

Well said foxie

Seconded

Maremia Tue 19-May-26 10:12:17

Good post foxie, thanks. šŸ‘

LizzieDrip Tue 19-May-26 10:15:42

Hear, hear foxie šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

Oreo Tue 19-May-26 10:16:15

foxie48
Your comments boil down to Unite the Kingdom all bad and the pro Palestine people all good.
I have rarely read such naive and unbalanced comments.
There were good people on both those marches and bad ones too.

silverlining48 Tue 19-May-26 10:29:36

If you think people on here are anti Jew, hiding behind pro Palestinian objectives, you are so wrong Oreo.

Wyllow3 Tue 19-May-26 10:31:21

LizzieDrip

Hear, hear foxie šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘

šŸ‘šŸ‘

Wyllow3 Tue 19-May-26 10:34:29

*foxie's post did not suggest in anyway it was a "goodies and baddies" situation.

Ie she does not anywhere say all the "unite" on the march bad

if you actually read her post carefully, she is talking about the leadership and all the political features of it.

Cossy Tue 19-May-26 10:45:40

AGAA4

Oreo Don't twist what I posted. I didn't say it's always Jews being provocative just this man. I have and always will support Jews against antisemitism for reasons of my own.

As do most of us here on Gransnet, despite some people continuously stating the opposite.

My stance is that whenever there’s any protest march, for whatever reason, a small percentage antagonists, simply turning up to stir the pot.

I have no doubts that both of the recent marches had these types, in the minority, in their marches.

My own beliefs and values would prevent me marching under any ā€œbannerā€ organised and led by the likes of YL.

I completely understand that there are a large percentage of British people completely dissatisfied with their lives currently and they are frustrated and do feel ā€œnot listened toā€, but to frame this as ā€œa fear for their country’s identityā€ is meaningless.

There are lots of things ā€œMr/Mrs Normal/Averageā€ can do to change or at least attempt to change things they feel are holding them back, they can lobby, their MPs, they can join groups in their communities, they can change jobs or move house or do any number of things, which don’t include blaming all non-whites and non-Christians and Asylum Seekers for the many issues our country undoubtedly faces.

I have no doubt that there were unruly nasty people in both groups of marches.

Respectfully, I have to strongly disagree with some of the voices on this site believing any other person on this site is antisemitic, as I just do not believe this to be true.

AGAA4 Tue 19-May-26 10:49:29

If there were good people on the unite the kingdom march they must have been very naive not to know what it was about.
I have heard thoughts from people I would never expect to be anti Muslim and antisemitic. There are a lot out there from different sections of society. People don't seem to keep their racism to themselves now and I believe many of them were on the unite match.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 19-May-26 10:53:24

Unite - racism by any other name stinks as foul.

LizzieDrip Tue 19-May-26 10:57:42

Respectfully, I have to strongly disagree with some of the voices on this site believing any other person on this site is antisemitic, as I just do not believe this to be true

I agree Cossy.

I personally can’t recall reading any antisemitic posts on here.

Posters voice their disagreement with the actions of the Israeli government towards the Palestinian people but, as has been explained many times, that is not antisemitic - it is not about ā€˜hatred’ of all Jewish people.

foxie48 Tue 19-May-26 10:59:01

Oreo

foxie48
Your comments boil down to Unite the Kingdom all bad and the pro Palestine people all good.
I have rarely read such naive and unbalanced comments.
There were good people on both those marches and bad ones too.

You clearly have not read my post properly but never mind, other people have and that is all that matters.