The U.K. is not like Italy

Casdon

Both the UK and Italy are wonderful places to live and to visit, I’d have been a lot more exercised about a comparison between the UK with almost anywhere else. One difference is that Italians don’t seem to constantly complain about everything in their country, whereas Brits are serial moaners.

Oh dear, I did moan about the litter and flytipping.

That's because it is spoiling our beautiful country.

twaddle

Galaxy

Er for the last few years we have been told that this country is responsible for every ill in the world, we have been told that institutions were institutionally racist, etc etc. It wasn't the 'far right' who started this.

Oh ssssshhhhh! I was thoroughly enjoying the positivity of this thread. I was wondering if we could start a GN initiative to repatriate British nationalism from flag-waving "patriots". Don't start a blame game.

I'm confused.

Do you mean reclaim British patriotism from British nationalists?
Patriotism meaning love of one's country, a pride in it and a desire to improve it

Nationalism means a feeling of superiority, dominance, leading to xenophobia.

Wanting Britain to be litter-free is a matter of pride and patriotic!!

JaneJudge

I might have tried it. I will try any cheese so I'll look out for it.

Try Welsh cheeses!

There are dozens to choose from, it's not just Caerphilly.

I do love the UK but consider myself fortunate. Perhaps those living in poor houses in run down towns, having to work for low pay may not feel the same.

Y Fenni my favourite Welsh cheese.

I have bought lots of Welsh cheese

Stilton takes some beating

AGAA4

I do love the UK but consider myself fortunate. Perhaps those living in poor houses in run down towns, having to work for low pay may not feel the same.

I expect those living in Calabria in the "toe" of Italy don't feel quite the same as those living in Milan or Rome. There is virtually no employment and it's said the only option is to join the Mafia.

The tragedy in both the UK and Italy is that regional equality isn't that high on the agenda. An even bigger tragedy is that the Labour Party has actually begun to do something about it, but people have still voted them out in local elections. Clacton, for example, has been given £60 million for local projects.

AGAA4

I do love the UK but consider myself fortunate. Perhaps those living in poor houses in run down towns, having to work for low pay may not feel the same.

Just what I was going to say.

One place I do like to see the Union flag, and look for it, is on British produce 🇬🇧

Our fruit and vegetables, our excellent foods which haven't gained thousands of air miles, even our wine now too which can compete with the best.

I've noticed the Welsh flag flying more in the last few weeks. The Welsh are more patriotic and proud of the country.

Food in our capital that rivals if not surpasses Rome.

We must not forget what the Romans did for us either 🙂
www.imdb.com/title/tt0283682/plotsummary/?ref_=tt_ov_pl

Thank you for starting this Whitewave . Your words have cheered me no end.
We are still lucky to live in this country for so many reasons.
(I have lived and travelled abroad and not been anywhere I would rather live).

Allira

One place I do like to see the Union flag, and look for it, is on British produce 🇬🇧

Our fruit and vegetables, our excellent foods which haven't gained thousands of air miles, even our wine now too which can compete with the best.

Yes, me too, I always try to buy British made if I can.

I love Italian food but fear I would be more ‘rotund’ if I lived there. 🙂

Allira

One place I do like to see the Union flag, and look for it, is on British produce 🇬🇧

Our fruit and vegetables, our excellent foods which haven't gained thousands of air miles, even our wine now too which can compete with the best.

Even I don't object to those flags. I don't even notice them now, but if I think about it, it gives me a rosy glow to think I'm eating something which was grown in the UK.

I look for them, especially now the British asparagus is in.

I think the UK is a really pretty place with stunning countryside and wonderful architecture the food is multicultural and fantastic in most places and in general the population is polite and tolerant however I think my preference is Italy it feels like home when I am there, the scenery, architecture, the food the culture it isnt perfect no where is but if I could live there I would (nothing decrying the UK however).

Allira

I look for them, especially now the British asparagus is in.

I bought a couple of kilos of asparagus from a farm in Norfolk yesterday, so I hope it's British (almost certainly not cut by British farm workers ... hmmm).

I grow my own rhubarb, beans and salad leaves and pick blackberries, blackcurrants, raspberries, gooseberries and blueberries myself (to freeze), so I know they're British. Friends give me apples, pears and plums (and even some cherries sometimes).

My meat (even chicken) is always British. I don't need a flag on any of it.

We're lucky we can grow so much, especially if people are prepared to eat crops in season.

twaddle the best food is always grown at home. No doubt then that it is British!
I miss all the things we grew now I no longer have a garden and have to rely on supermarket deliveries.

The only thing I would compare is the state of our roads.
The roads are lovely to drive on in Spain, I didn’t see one pot hole.
Here I feel my eyes are downwards looking for pot holes 😩

MT62

The only thing I would compare is the state of our roads.
The roads are lovely to drive on in Spain, I didn’t see one pot hole.
Here I feel my eyes are downwards looking for pot holes 😩

🤦‍♀️ oh Italy- never been.

I am part of a local litter picking team, good exercise and people from all generations to chat too while we pick.

Italy has better food, weather, historical sites, ice cream so why make a comparison? Uk is a good place to live if you have enough money to live on and don't live in a depressing backwater, which is probably the same as anywhere else. Unfortunately we've lost our manufacturing industry which Italy still has including household goods, cars and textiles. Italy has more high end fashion houses.

vegansrock

Italy has better food, weather, historical sites, ice cream so why make a comparison? Uk is a good place to live if you have enough money to live on and don't live in a depressing backwater, which is probably the same as anywhere else. Unfortunately we've lost our manufacturing industry which Italy still has including household goods, cars and textiles. Italy has more high end fashion houses.

There are some depressing backwaters ie slums in every country, including Italy, worse than in the UK.