The U.K. is not like Italy

vegansrock The OP isnot denying areas where Italy excells over the UK, but it is pointing out the areas on which we excell, and being reminded does no harm whatsoever.
Posters have quite naturally added their contribution.

Given the chaos in the UK it was a pleasant reminder that not all is doom and gloom

Given the chaos in the UK it was a pleasant reminder that not all is doom and gloom

No, that comes later, and will be nothing to do with the current political shenanigans.

The first time I went to Italy I was struck by how many of their grand old buildings looked like British great country houses. Then I twigged it. Of course, our 17th and 18th C architects had copied Italian architecture

What I love about Britain is the wide variation in stunning landscapes in a comparatively small area. Few miles and miles of flatlands (except in poor old Lincolnshire)

I’m lucky that I live by plenty of proper Italian restaurants outside of Italy and the city

We have plenty of beautiful historic buildings and gardens

I have currently been haunting Aldi because they seem to be the only supermarket that regularly stocks Italian grown tomatoes, while making a weekly trip to Waitrose for the earliest British grown asparagus. I then use the asparagus in a risotto, which means sourcing one specific brand of risotto rice because I've been to their factory in Italy. This pretty much sums up my attitude to Italy versus the UK. Schizophrenic is probably the word.

'Inclusive' is better perhaps?

come on now Whitewavemark2 - you are clearly not reading the papers!

I agree with all you say .....

twaddle

Galaxy

Er for the last few years we have been told that this country is responsible for every ill in the world, we have been told that institutions were institutionally racist, etc etc. It wasn't the 'far right' who started this.

Oh ssssshhhhh! I was thoroughly enjoying the positivity of this thread. I was wondering if we could start a GN initiative to repatriate British nationalism from flag-waving "patriots". Don't start a blame game.

It was keeping quiet who mentioned’the far right’ first.

Excuse me! I don't get the point you're making.

You forgot to include the photo that accompanied the Observer editorial Whitewavemark2.
That is a Vespa, which is a famous ITALIAN brand of scooters! 😂 🇮🇹
You'd think they have chosen a picture of a Triumph!
observer.co.uk/news/politics/article/the-observer-view-welcome-to-italy

Allira

One place I do like to see the Union flag, and look for it, is on British produce 🇬🇧

Our fruit and vegetables, our excellent foods which haven't gained thousands of air miles, even our wine now too which can compete with the best.

Who gets to buy Welsh lamb these days? Where does it go? I’d love some but the supermarket I use never stocks it.

Try Morrisons, all their fresh meat is from the UK, and they stock Welsh lamb.

You can but it in restaurants

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Allira

One place I do like to see the Union flag, and look for it, is on British produce 🇬🇧

Our fruit and vegetables, our excellent foods which haven't gained thousands of air miles, even our wine now too which can compete with the best.

Who gets to buy Welsh lamb these days? Where does it go? I’d love some but the supermarket I use never stocks it.

Waitrose, Sainsbury's, Lidl too.

I still miss the British cheeses. They do have a version of them here but that’s it, just a version . We have some lovely Tasmanian cheeses and they are the nearest thing. We do have quite a few Italian and French ones and they are good but somehow they don’t get the ‘ British ‘ ones quite right even though they are supposed to be actually British. Lovely Caephilly and Wensleydale. Dreamy.

My butcher sells welsh lamb and English lamb - both organic grass fed free range. You can get the Welsh lamb who feed on seaweed I think, but that is really expensive and for special occasions.

Italy has had some crap governments over the years, but mostly they are so useless they don’t do anything major. Brexit has shown that it was an economic disaster to leave the EU ,which provides stability in many ways for the country. Hence why even the right wing parties now see they are much better off inside the EU and don’t campaign against it.

vegansrock interesting as your post is and one with which I agree I am not sure you have grasped the point of this thread

I was just thinking about the creative industry and the high level of income the U.K. gets from it.

It can’t be very sensible to my mind to diss the degrees relating to this industry as is so often the case.

Our creative industry is second to none.

There are a couple of American gentlemen who live in Britain now who vlog on what they love about this country. Their views of us are very encouraging.

The Italian state pension is one of the highest in Europe.

I agree with you 100% about the dissing of degrees relating to the creative industries.

Interestingly, Italy and the UK seem to contrast in their creative industries in that we rely heavily on technology, whereas Italy focuses more on heritage. The skill the Italians possess, is that they value innovation and originality in individuals above all else. You could say that that often requires less of a formal education, but more artistry and an out of the box boldness.
It would be enlightening to compare the educational paths of the two countries in these fields, but I don’t know enough about Italy to comment.

ronib

The Italian state pension is one of the highest in Europe.

My guess is that, like in France, their contributions in Italy are probably a lot higher too?

Hey, I've just thought of another "better" for Italy, they tend to live longer than we do in the UK!! So, at the end of the day, they actually receive far more from their government than we do in our poultry pensions.

And they're better lovers! ❤️ Even Shakespeare would have agreed with that.

Music that the world loves took a bit of a dive at Eurovision! Just one more thing to embarrass and humiliate the UK.

Poultry 🐔 😂 Paultry

Pollo alla Milanese anyone?

Jaberwok

Music that the world loves took a bit of a dive at Eurovision! Just one more thing to embarrass and humiliate the UK.

😄😄😄 nobody take the Eurovisions seriously.