Money well spent?

What I think is that you’ve given away what you think already by using the word fiasco?

I know how much I will sigh when I go to France later this year as I did when in Spain last year.

Such a mess, not the only one, shameful.

I have a solution (tongue in cheek). I live near The Black Cat Roundabout on the A1 near St Neots. It is the biggest road project in the Uk at the moment and is expected to cost £1billion.

It is on time and in budget.

I propose that when the BCR is complete, they sack everyone working on HS2, including the office boy and the cat and appoint the Black Cat team (including office boy and cat) to take over and complete it. They will get it finished in under 5 years.

OK HS2 is bigger that the huge BCR project, but HS2 is a monumental waste of money, a David Cameron vanity project, and needs to be contained and brought to heel as soon as possible. The money set aside for HS2 should be spent on improving the rest of the raail network.

Might be dead by time it’s finished so will not see any benefit.

Monica- I agree. I also live in BCR area, further towards Cambridge - it is so very well organised, on time, in budget, plus communication with local residents, at various stages has been very good. There has been much less disruption than you might expect with such a huge transport development project.

Somebody, somewhere, leading this project has effective skills and experience that could be advantageously transferred to HS2- to get it over the finishing line.

I love the idea, I loathe the reality and both this and the previous government have made a monumental mess!

M0nica

I have a solution (tongue in cheek). I live near The Black Cat Roundabout on the A1 near St Neots. It is the biggest road project in the Uk at the moment and is expected to cost £1billion.

It is on time and in budget.

I propose that when the BCR is complete, they sack everyone working on HS2, including the office boy and the cat and appoint the Black Cat team (including office boy and cat) to take over and complete it. They will get it finished in under 5 years.

OK HS2 is bigger that the huge BCR project, but HS2 is a monumental waste of money, a David Cameron vanity project, and needs to be contained and brought to heel as soon as possible. The money set aside for HS2 should be spent on improving the rest of the raail network.

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Casdon

What I think is that you’ve given away what you think already by using the word fiasco?

I think Sarnia is asking what some of the rest of us think. There is surely nothing wrong with her expressing her opinion.

It is a loaded question when it’s worded like that Flippinheck, that’s what I meant.

They also said it won't achieve the projected speeds to save fuel🙄 🤷 you couldn't make it up.

What a waste of taxpayers cash!
Trees cut down homes demolished and time wasted.Sort of sums up Westminster to me! Think Boris’ garden bridge …how many millions?
A whole.e fleet of tanks Un useable ,An aircraft carrier with no aircraft,two warships where one had to be used as sparearts for the other.
So many more vanity projects that just spent public money and came to NOTHING!
Let’s not forget the Covid mess 32 BILLION to Dido Harding that seems to have been forgotten.
Bank accounts in Westminster need to be checked and rechecked..that money has to be in somebody’s back .
pocket .
Now we have Starmer supplying arms to Israel .honestly, England needs to wake up and see the truth …the corruption in their government
..

Then there is the scandal of contractors employing self employed workers but submitting false wage slips that showed they were on the payroll, they weren’t 🤬

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje7edx5wzwo

Now we have Starmer supplying arms to Israel .honestly, England needs to wake up and see the truth …the corruption in their government

Yours too, Starmer is PM of the UK
Last time I looked, Scotland was part of the UK, 37 of the 57 Scottish MPs being Labour.

My understanding of HS2 is that it was a way of getting lorries off our roads which would, in the long term, help the environment. Our rail system is Victorian and it’s impossible safety wise to build new track next to existing track. Imo we need a rail system that is cheap enough for everyone to use (which isn’t the case at the moment even though other countries seem to manage it). We can’t continue having more and more cars and lorries on the road.

Labour is dead in Scotland ,they only got those votes because there was a “mis” belief it was the way to get rid of the tories.Thing is we haven’t voted Tory in any great numbers since 1955!
John Swinney was voted in today as First Minister ,SNP have been the largest party in Scotland now for a fifth term …in a system where in a fist past the post they would have had a huge majority but with d’hondt it’s almost impossible to gain a majority .
We see the mess Westminster makes …Labour won’t get that number of seats again in a “general election” .
Maybe WM should have to balance the books every year in the same way the devolved nations do then they couldn’t waste billions year on year .
I,m not anti English just anti union ,I have English family from ew astle to Devon and an English SIL and gd .

It's a real waste of money. And remodelling Euston Station is going to be disruptive for decades. Labour should have scrapped it on day 1.

"I'm not anti English, I have English family from Newcastle to Devon and an English SIL and gd" Meaningless! so many of your posts point to the opposite. It's more than the desire for thwarted Scottish Independence which many English posters would support by the way, it's a visceral dislike of England and the English. Not something I'd attribute to any other Scottish poster. Too many pejorative posts about England, too many unflattering suppositions about the English.

HS2 a disgraceful waste of money, I don't know anyone who thinks it was a well thought out good idea.

paddyann54

Labour is dead in Scotland ,they only got those votes because there was a “mis” belief it was the way to get rid of the tories.Thing is we haven’t voted Tory in any great numbers since 1955!
John Swinney was voted in today as First Minister ,SNP have been the largest party in Scotland now for a fifth term …in a system where in a fist past the post they would have had a huge majority but with d’hondt it’s almost impossible to gain a majority .
We see the mess Westminster makes …Labour won’t get that number of seats again in a “general election” .
Maybe WM should have to balance the books every year in the same way the devolved nations do then they couldn’t waste billions year on year .
I,m not anti English just anti union ,I have English family from ew astle to Devon and an English SIL and gd .

Labour is dead in Scotland ,they only got those votes because there was a “mis” belief it was the way to get rid of the tories.

Or a way to get rid of the SNP!

in a system where in a fist past the post they would have had a huge majority but with d’hondt it’s almost impossible to gain a majority

Let's face it, they seem to be losing their appeal.

I,m not anti English
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paddyann54

Labour is dead in Scotland ,they only got those votes because there was a “mis” belief it was the way to get rid of the tories.Thing is we haven’t voted Tory in any great numbers since 1955!
John Swinney was voted in today as First Minister ,SNP have been the largest party in Scotland now for a fifth term …in a system where in a fist past the post they would have had a huge majority but with d’hondt it’s almost impossible to gain a majority .
We see the mess Westminster makes …Labour won’t get that number of seats again in a “general election” .
Maybe WM should have to balance the books every year in the same way the devolved nations do then they couldn’t waste billions year on year .
I,m not anti English just anti union ,I have English family from ew astle to Devon and an English SIL and gd .

The vote share information gives a completely different picture to the one you paint paddyann54. Which version is correct I wonder?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e2v4n20xlo

This is the 3rd morning running that 3 Network Rail vans, each with only a driver. They are there for 1 or 2 hours. Nothing happens, then they go home.
I fully appreciate that this is small fry but it’s all part of the thinking where public money is concerned.
In the 80s I went to manage a dept in a nationalised industry.
I was horrified at the waste. I tried my best to run the department efficiently but nobody wanted to know.
Could somebody explain to me, how, when I asked the company secretary if I could have a certain amount of money to buy a computer program which would save us a lot of money because we had to farm this work out every week the reply was no, carry on as you are.
In the end you give up 😡
When ( if ever) are we going to get a handle on public spending.

petra, It's not just public companies. I worked in both - public and private and I can honestly say they were as bad as each other and I could give some examples of bad practice.

So £100 billion for 140 miles is just fine a d dandy?
Thats £714 million of your cash per mile.
I can’t begin to imagine how long it would take to pay for it never mind make a profit
Yes sadly Westminster is still in charge of the majority of spending and receives most of our taxation.All vat ,vehicle tax,capital gains and corporation tax fuel tax and much more are not devolved issues.
As you say “sir” Keir is still our PM….Cameron…he of the Brexit fiasco made sure Scotland has no say on English laws .Yet WM can do what it likes with Scottish matters .The day after the 2014 referendum Cameronstood outside number 10 and clearly stated English votes only for English laws !
Being totally against Westminster is not being anti English

It is when it’s against all of Westminster Paddyann54
Plenty of people in England won’t mind at all if Scotland goes its own way tho Scots seemingly don’t really want that.