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Reforms response to Rachel Reeves’ heckler.

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Nandalot Thu 21-May-26 14:14:13

I thought Rachel Reeves kept her cool and made an appropriate response to the heckler at the petrol station. However, I am rather surprised at the responses from jey members of the reform party.
Nigel Farage: Reacting on X, Mr Farage said: "I’d like to buy this man a pint. Does anyone know how I can find him?"
Roger Jenrick: He sounds British to me, Rachel! Good for him.
Zia Yusuf : "Could this legendary gentleman please get in touch.
From the Express.
"A future Reform government would like to give him a peerage for this outstanding public service.

twaddle Sat 23-May-26 16:35:50

MartavTaurus

I suggest you consult an accountant Twaddle.
Your driving round to do tuition in your personal car is NOT the same as a tradesman/woman like my sil, using his van for the sole purpose of his/her business.

What tuition?

I was self-employed HR consultant and used to visit clients. I had a small office and was able to claim vehicle costs when I visited clients. I had an accountant, thank you very much.

suelld Sat 23-May-26 16:37:34

Nandalot

But he was rude shouting at he from a moving van. I didn’t think she look rattled but commented quite appropriately
.

I agree and tho I dislike most Politicians, particularly Reform, thought her response was great!

sundowngirl Sat 23-May-26 16:42:29

twaddle

What else would you have wanted her to do?

The mileage allowance of 45p was introduced in 2011; she could have increased it to 69p/80p (CPI/RPI) to have the same purchasing power as it did 15 years ago.

55p increase is just tinkering around the edges

orly Sat 23-May-26 16:45:17

Oreo

Oh is that all?😁

...exactly! Her response was pretty tepid also

Graphite Sat 23-May-26 16:46:26

Quote The 55p is specifically in respect of employees claiming from their employer.

No it isn’t.

Twaddle is quite right. It's here titled Simplified expenses if you're self-employed

www.gov.uk/simpler-income-tax-simplified-expenses/vehicles

Self-employed individuals can claim tax relief for business vehicle journeys using either the flat rate Simplified Expenses method or by claiming exact actual costs.

For Cars and Vans: 55p per mile for the first 10,000 miles, then 25p per mile thereafter.

You can claim for

• cars (except those designed for commercial use, for example, black cabs, hackney carriages or dual control driving instructors’ cars)

• goods vehicles (for example, vans)

You cannot claim simplified expenses for a vehicle you’ve already claimed capital allowances for, or you’ve included as an expense when you worked out your business profits. That’s because the mileage allowance includes an element for depreciation of the vehicle.

Example

You’ve driven 11,000 business miles over the year.
Calculation:

10,000 miles x 55p = £5,500

1,000 miles x 25p = £250

Total you can claim = £5,750

MartavTaurus Sat 23-May-26 16:55:38

You cannot claim simplified expenses for a vehicle you’ve already claimed capital allowances for, or you’ve included as an expense when you worked out your business profits. That’s because the mileage allowance includes an element for depreciation of the vehicle.

Exactly the point. The 55p doesn't help white van man.

Sorry, that's it for now from me this evening. I'm off to an oyster farm for dinner. 🦪 🦪 🍷

RSALLAN2002 Sat 23-May-26 19:48:09

We don't get many chances to express our views directly to politicians so its fair enough to take them. If politicians can't stand heckling they're in the wrong job. Her response was slow and feeble. You could almost hear the cogs turning. Certainly no Churchill. As for John Prescott he threw a punch towards someone who'd thrown a punch at him. Quite right to do so. Might have taken his eye out.

Plunger Sat 23-May-26 20:59:43

Some of the responses here are absolutely pathetic! Farage is regularly heckled as are probably most MPs at sometime. To infer that it's inappropriate because it comes from a ( presumed) Reform voter ridiculous. Get a life

foxie48 Sat 23-May-26 20:59:52

That's not the point though, is it?

Graphite Sat 23-May-26 21:11:21

(presumed) Reform voter

I'm neither Hercule Poirot nor DCI Barnaby but I think wandering around the forecourt of a petrol station with arms aloft shouting Nigel Farage! Go on Nigel! was a bit of a clue.

StoneofDestiny Sat 23-May-26 21:28:48

I wouldn't expect anything civil or decent from a Reform politician - never seen it either.

nanna8 Sun 24-May-26 00:08:49

Interesting. I’m just wondering why Reform won so many seats at the local council elections. Of course all those people must be wrong ?

foxie48 Sun 24-May-26 08:32:33

Reform has the most money to spend on elections, mostly given by people who do not live in the UK. Local elections have small turnouts so getting people out to vote is crucial so whipping up anger and dissent via social media and the GB news channel is very effective at getting people to vote. Unlike in Australia, we don't have to vote and many don't especially in local elections. Average turnout is about 35% and Reform tended to win seats with 30-40% of the votes cast so effectively we are talking about 15% of the total electorate voting for Reform.

twaddle Sun 24-May-26 09:14:21

MartavTaurus

^You cannot claim simplified expenses for a vehicle you’ve already claimed capital allowances for, or you’ve included as an expense when you worked out your business profits. That’s because the mileage allowance includes an element for depreciation of the vehicle.^

Exactly the point. The 55p doesn't help white van man.

Sorry, that's it for now from me this evening. I'm off to an oyster farm for dinner. 🦪 🦪 🍷

That's a bit snobby! Emily Thornberry was heavily criticised for tweeting about a "white man van".

This reduction was aimed at those claiming simplified expenses (such as care workers), most of whom are low paid. I don't know whether you realised this, but Labour is supposed to be the party for the low paid. Unfortunately, some people just don't know how the "other half" lives

Plunger Sun 24-May-26 09:16:12

foxie48

That's not the point though, is it?

Then what is the point?
Corbyn - Stupid woman
Rayner - Tory scum
Brown - bigot
Some very 'polite' comments from British politicians

Mollygo Sun 24-May-26 09:58:22

But surely those were Labour politicians Plunger!

Maremia Sun 24-May-26 10:05:55

Reform politicians seem to have 'form' when it comes to foul tweets.
Some GNs have mentioned the absolute clangers from the Reform candidate against Burnham.
Will not taint your Sunday morning read by quoting.
If you really want to read them, easily found.

Plunger Sun 24-May-26 10:13:36

Mollygo

But surely those were Labour politicians Plunger!

Exactly

MartavTaurus Sun 24-May-26 10:47:52

That's a bit snobby! Emily Thornberry was heavily criticised for tweeting about a "white man van.

This reduction was aimed at those claiming simplified expenses (such as care workers), most of whom are low paid. I don't know whether you realised this, but Labour is supposed to be the party for the low paid. Unfortunately, some people just don't know how the other half live.

Actually my sil is a self employed plumber, a grey van man with green signage, so I do know who has been helped by this and who hasn't.
I try not to discriminate, so it's not a case of how the "other half" live, which implies an us and them outlook.

Basgetti Sun 24-May-26 13:14:13

Plunger

Some of the responses here are absolutely pathetic! Farage is regularly heckled as are probably most MPs at sometime. To infer that it's inappropriate because it comes from a ( presumed) Reform voter ridiculous. Get a life

Nige has £5million solely for protection, doesn’t he?
Oh, hang on, that’s £15 million according to the Sunday press.
Yet he believes it’s acceptable to encourage his stooges to harass other politicians? Ok.

Chocolatelovinggran Sun 24-May-26 13:34:15

Basgetti, I saw that Mr Farage posted recently about feeling threatened because a press photographer was in the street outside of his house ( he didn't specify which one) .
The photographer made no attempt to interact with Mr Farage, but his presence nearby was upsetting, apparently.
Possibly double standards at work?

Basgetti Sun 24-May-26 13:37:17

Chocolatelovinggran

Basgetti, I saw that Mr Farage posted recently about feeling threatened because a press photographer was in the street outside of his house ( he didn't specify which one) .
The photographer made no attempt to interact with Mr Farage, but his presence nearby was upsetting, apparently.
Possibly double standards at work?

Hypocrite of the first order. Should perhaps take the lead of his patriotic colleague Mr. Tice and take up residency in Dubai?

Mollygo Sun 24-May-26 13:38:34

Hi Basgetti

Oh, hang on, that’s £15 million according to the Sunday press.

I’m not in any way a fan of either Reform or Nigel Farage, but I’d like to know which Sunday press expanded the £5 million I’d heard about to this new amount.
Must be the GN expectation of evidence catching up with me.

Basgetti Sun 24-May-26 13:42:41

Mollygo

Hi Basgetti

Oh, hang on, that’s £15 million according to the Sunday press.

I’m not in any way a fan of either Reform or Nigel Farage, but I’d like to know which Sunday press expanded the £5 million I’d heard about to this new amount.
Must be the GN expectation of evidence catching up with me.

Saw the headline on Kuensberg, think it was, from The Mirror.
Hardly surprising that it’s the Mirror, some might say 😁 In these litigious times, though, must be pretty certain of its facts to splash it on the front page.

Mollygo Sun 24-May-26 13:43:59

Oh. Keunssberg and the Mirror.
That explains it.