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Changes in taxation that Andy Burnham seems to be interested in

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Spinnaker Mon 25-May-26 12:40:50

My goodness - only 15 posts in and already three deletions. Someone's got their finger on the button today 🙄

Mollygo Mon 25-May-26 12:40:28

Andy Burnham will be just like other MPs or PMs, claiming travel and living expenses and subsidised food, whilst setting taxes that squeeze the middle group.

Before anyone jumps in and says meals are not subsidised I didn’t have time to find another word that explains how
MPs and Peers can access cut-price food and drinks in the Houses of Parliament.

While Parliament states that food is not directly subsidised, the catering services operate at a financial loss—*with millions of pounds in public money used annually to cover operational shortfalls.*

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 25-May-26 12:27:17

Sorry "twaddle", I quoted and then lost the reply. It was "Understandable'.

petra Mon 25-May-26 12:18:54

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Mollygo Mon 25-May-26 12:12:24

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DaisyAnneReturns Mon 25-May-26 12:02:48

twaddle

Sorry, DAR, but I really find it tiresome when people drop unsubstantiated claims into random conversations.

... "we need to increase the rate of capital gains tax to align with income tax."

I'm hearing this more often "Graphite". It does seem reasonable. I was also interested to hear this point: "Reeves has actually increased taxes on the wealthy and by much greater sums than the clown populace are claiming they would raise with their own ideas, but the public aren't aware."

This too: " Britain's wealth is booming. You you hear tales of of economic woe and Britain's wealth has never stopped booming. In fact, I was reading in the Financial Times, from an investor, not that long ago, about the banking crisis. We have never recovered from the banking crisis. People populations all over the western world have never recovered from the banking crisis. Investors recovered within a couple of years, right? The the wealth is absolutely booming. It has never stopped booming."

twaddle Mon 25-May-26 11:25:43

Sorry, DAR, but I really find it tiresome when people drop unsubstantiated claims into random conversations.

twaddle Mon 25-May-26 11:24:14

Spinnaker

It's out there in plenty of news sources twaddle so perhaps don't be so quick to tell someone to stop spreading rumours.

Andy Burnham's historical mortgage interest claims relate to his time as a Member of Parliament, when he claimed a total of £18,952 in expenses for the interest portion of his London flat mortgage between May 2010 and June 2012. These claims were permitted under the parliamentary rules at the time.

(Google)

Where's the evidence that the taxpayer is still paying his mortgage interest?

twaddle Mon 25-May-26 11:22:31

Spinnaker

It's out there in plenty of news sources twaddle so perhaps don't be so quick to tell someone to stop spreading rumours.

I'm acknowledging what you have written DAR, but I'd be interested in Spinnaker's sources. Why does the "taxpayer" pay the mortgage interest on a flat in London? You don't appear to have an answer, Spinnaker.

Graphite Mon 25-May-26 11:14:22

Thanks for the link, DAR. As always, Phil M talks a lot of sense.

As Richard Murphy said in his paper on Taxing Wealth, we need to increase the rate of capital gains tax to align with income tax. Murphy estimates that could raise 12 billion a year.

taxingwealth.uk/

Reeves has already made some changes to make the better off pay more tax on passive income but it passes most people by and Labour are poor at publicising their good policies.

We also need to reform council tax but it needs to be done carefully so as not to disadvantage those who are income poor but asset rich.

I like the idea of a national care service funded by a collective social insurance levy.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 25-May-26 11:10:38

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DaisyAnneReturns Mon 25-May-26 11:08:25

Hi everyone, just a gentle reminder that discussions are uasually at least allowed to start by being relevant to the thread. This one shares a video for discussion, please avoid hijacking. Not everyone may want to click links or watch videos, but some may.

Spinnaker Mon 25-May-26 10:47:30

It's out there in plenty of news sources twaddle so perhaps don't be so quick to tell someone to stop spreading rumours.

twaddle Mon 25-May-26 10:41:29

Spinnaker

Primrose53

Just been reading he owns a property in London, does the King of the North.

Yep and his mortgage interest paid for by the good old taxpayer. Said it before and I'll say it again - all got their snouts in the same trough.

Why does the taxpayer pay his mortgage interest? Please provide a source. If you can't, you shouldn't spread rumours.

The flat was bought when he was an MP. It was bought legitimately because he was allowed a London home. He has very wisely decided to hang on to it and rent it out. Is there any evidence he has done anything illegal?

Spinnaker Mon 25-May-26 10:34:52

Primrose53

Just been reading he owns a property in London, does the King of the North.

Yep and his mortgage interest paid for by the good old taxpayer. Said it before and I'll say it again - all got their snouts in the same trough.

Primrose53 Mon 25-May-26 10:02:06

Just been reading he owns a property in London, does the King of the North.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 25-May-26 09:51:47

www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0ra0rews2s

And interesting addition to our recent dives into possible changes in taxation.