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Nicola Sturgeons husband pleads guilty.

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Silvershadow Mon 25-May-26 13:15:40

Lots on here today about the candidates for the Makerfield by election but nothing, as yet, on this huge news story from this morning. Nicola Sturgeons husband, Peter Murrell, pleads guilty to embezzling money from the SNP. Remanded into custody.

Basgetti Tue 26-May-26 10:15:26

Padine

I’m with eazybee and calendargirl, we don’t, if they actually lived together, was it a happy marriage or just for tax purposes? He maybe told Nicola he had been left £500,00 from an aunty and that’s where the money came from.
I think Nicola deserves our sympathy and support for this mess. She did a great job running Scotland during COVID and had no time to argue with her husband about what he spent “his” money on.
He will not have an easy time if he’s sent to prison.

I agree. She was a superb leader during Covid (while England had Johnson 🤪).
She has been thoroughly investigated and cleared. I trust my husband without question and would be stunned if he turned out to be a baddun. Perhaps she did, too?

TerriBull Tue 26-May-26 10:19:55

Items that shocked me to the core, umpteen calendars from Fortnum and Mason. Wot was he thinking ? shock A more London centric store would be hard to find. So close to not only Parasite Palace but that bastian of utter filth, oppression and subjugation WESTMINSTERshock It don't come worse than that, the biggest Mcstake of all imo.

TerriBull Tue 26-May-26 10:22:35

...and it aint half posh, wot's that all about???

Galaxy Tue 26-May-26 10:24:02

I mean I think there are many things that are out there that people can't say!
I suppose for me I could never believe that people fell for her 'I am the grown up' routine.

Meandrogrog Tue 26-May-26 10:42:58

Galaxy

I mean I think there are many things that are out there that people can't say!
I suppose for me I could never believe that people fell for her 'I am the grown up' routine.

No I could never believe it either.

eazybee Tue 26-May-26 10:49:43

I recall the accusations of sexual misconduct made against Alex Salmond, and the fact that he was cleared of all charges bar one 'unproven.'
In 2021, the committee concluded that Nicola Sturgeon had misled parliament in her recounting of her knowledge of the complaints against Salmond, but the independent investigation into her conduct carried out by James Hamilton concluded that this did not amount to a breach of the ministerial code.
It is emerging that Ms Sturgeon replied to many police questions concerning her knowledge of her husband's financial affairs with 'no comment.'
Not quite the paragon of virtue , or even someone 'who did a great job running Scotland' that we are led to believe.

Cardamom Tue 26-May-26 10:59:42

A lavender marriage.

SueDonim Tue 26-May-26 11:14:08

TerriBull

Items that shocked me to the core, umpteen calendars from Fortnum and Mason. Wot was he thinking ? shock A more London centric store would be hard to find. So close to not only Parasite Palace but that bastian of utter filth, oppression and subjugation WESTMINSTERshock It don't come worse than that, the biggest Mcstake of all imo.

Yet La Sturgeon wishes to live in London because Scotland is a ‘goldfish bowl’!

I fail to see how she led Scotland so superbly during Covid - the death rates between the two countries were near-identical.

winterwhite Tue 26-May-26 11:23:10

I agree that the bizarre items bought by Peter Murrell give the impression of some kind of compulsive disorder.

So long as NS wasn't complicit, does it really matter that she apparently took no notice of what he did?

surfsup Tue 26-May-26 11:27:55

Casdon

The fact that despite police investigation over a prolonged period, there is no evidence to convict Nicola Sturgeon of any involvement in her husband’s criminal activities means something I think. Was he a conman, and she a woman who, regardless of her position ,was conned? Unfortunately it happens far more frequently than anybody, particularly the victims will admit, even to themselves. I feel uncomfortable in condemning her when there is nothing but circumstantial evidence.

Having two police officers in the family it’s usual for people with something to hide who don’t wish to incriminate themselves to go “no comment” and that’s what NS did. She wasn’t cooperative. I wonder why?

paddyann54 Tue 26-May-26 11:33:49

I live with a man who often bought expensive things and I knew nothing about them ,we currently have 3 classic cars he took straight to his garage he even bought the house we,ve lived in for 37 years and I didn,t know until he was looking for his cheque book to pay the deposit.
Did /doI need to know what he spends? No as long as he believes he can afford it it’s his business.
You can’t take it with you so why not.
I am particularly easy going and in a 51 year marriage where I trust him implicitly and it’s only money.
There’s no ceiling on my spending either and no need to OK purchases ….
I find it odd so many think it’s ok to interfere in their husbands life unless it’s something harmful or illegal.Assuming she knew is just wrong
He did a stupid senseless thing for reasons that are his own….he damaged his marriage his party and the independence movement ,in the scheme of things there are far worse things happening in the world to worry about .
I don’t condone it but it won’t give me sleepless nights .
At a guess I,dthink he was very unhappy and under pressure..He didn’t steal YOUR nd the donors on the whole aren’t demanding refunds.
The amount of money wasted by Police Scotland on this is a bigger concern when there are far worse crimes that need dealing with
Just MY opinion

Silvershadow Tue 26-May-26 11:39:30

winterwhite

I agree that the bizarre items bought by Peter Murrell give the impression of some kind of compulsive disorder.

So long as NS wasn't complicit, does it really matter that she apparently took no notice of what he did?

It wouldn’t matter that she took no notice if he wasn’t using party funds to buy them would it. And, if she didn’t continually castigate English politicians in her time of office who, in her eyes, did wrong. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Oreo Tue 26-May-26 12:04:57

TerriBull

Items that shocked me to the core, umpteen calendars from Fortnum and Mason. Wot was he thinking ? shock A more London centric store would be hard to find. So close to not only Parasite Palace but that bastian of utter filth, oppression and subjugation WESTMINSTERshock It don't come worse than that, the biggest Mcstake of all imo.

🤣🤣🤣

Oreo Tue 26-May-26 12:06:14

He told a Shetland jewellery that he was ‘ the man with the money’ but omitted to say whose money!

Cardamom Tue 26-May-26 12:07:17

paddyann54 much as I admire your solid determination to see only the best in Murrell's squalid thievery, I really don't think that you can compare your own domestic financial financial situation with those of the CEO of a political party. Honesty, integrity and openess is even more vital than in a personal relationship and, whilst you don't mind that he ran off with your donations, many others will not be. Similarly, I completely understand that you revere Oor Wee Nicky and won't have a word said against her but her insistence that she had no inkling of the nefarious ways of her husband are not comparable with your own domestic bliss of financial openess and trust. She personally warned the SNPs National Executive Committee, as far back as 2021, to be "very careful" about suggesting there were problems with party accounts because it would deter people like you from continuing to donate. Now why would she do that if there was nothing to hide? Not much "openess and trust" there was there?

MT62 Tue 26-May-26 12:07:50

Very few ‘white sheep’ I am afraid spinnaker. Not declaring gifts, non payment of council tax, tax avoidance, Fiddling expenses sheets- didn’t someone years ago buy himself house for his ducks 🤣
Us mere mortals would be hauled over the coals if we did the same.

OldFrill Tue 26-May-26 12:09:18

paddyann54

I live with a man who often bought expensive things and I knew nothing about them ,we currently have 3 classic cars he took straight to his garage he even bought the house we,ve lived in for 37 years and I didn,t know until he was looking for his cheque book to pay the deposit.
Did /doI need to know what he spends? No as long as he believes he can afford it it’s his business.
You can’t take it with you so why not.
I am particularly easy going and in a 51 year marriage where I trust him implicitly and it’s only money.
There’s no ceiling on my spending either and no need to OK purchases ….
I find it odd so many think it’s ok to interfere in their husbands life unless it’s something harmful or illegal.Assuming she knew is just wrong
He did a stupid senseless thing for reasons that are his own….he damaged his marriage his party and the independence movement ,in the scheme of things there are far worse things happening in the world to worry about .
I don’t condone it but it won’t give me sleepless nights .
At a guess I,dthink he was very unhappy and under pressure..He didn’t steal YOUR nd the donors on the whole aren’t demanding refunds.
The amount of money wasted by Police Scotland on this is a bigger concern when there are far worse crimes that need dealing with
Just MY opinion

Do you do stand up comedy too.

Oreo Tue 26-May-26 12:09:53

Well, you would say that Paddyann 54 wouldn’t you?
It will never be known if Sturgeon suspected anything or not in any case.
Yes it has damaged the SNP and yes Police Scotland did the right thing no matter the cost.

eazybee Tue 26-May-26 12:11:18

What a pathetic defence.

He did a stupid senseless thing for reasons that are his own….he damaged his marriage his party and the independence movement ,in the scheme of things there are far worse things happening in the world to worry about

Peter Murrell committed a criminal offence embezzling £400,000 of Party money over a sustained period. His wife, Leader of the Party which employed him, apparently had no interest in or knowledge of either their joint Party and marital financial affairs.
Lack of attention to detail which has brought about their downfall.

Fortunately, few appear to share this poster's warped opinion.

MT62 Tue 26-May-26 12:23:40

Cardamom

A lavender marriage.

Few of those around

MT62 Tue 26-May-26 12:24:58

What wrong with a ‘ten bob’pencil sharpener 🤣

MT62 Tue 26-May-26 12:28:42

Didn’t she have an episode where she had no mask on I think it was some event, or mate Margaret who was travelling up & down on train during restrictions? Suedonin

OldFrill Tue 26-May-26 12:29:18

The amount of money wasted by Police Scotland on this is a bigger concern when there are far worse crimes that need dealing with

Murrell could have admitted he was guilty 3 years ago, it's his fault so much money had to be spent before he owned up.

MT62 Tue 26-May-26 12:29:45

MT62

Like someone said on another thread, the snout is well & truely stuck in the trough

Who’s money was it anyway?

MT62 Tue 26-May-26 12:34:55

Oh donated money, oh well that’s ok then 🙄