Belfast another appalling attack, we need to ask what is driving this.

The Daily Mail reported that in 2001 the victim was very badly injured - set on fire - and he returned to Belfast from Scotland. Drug trafficking with 14 year prison sentences for one man. Odd.

GrannyGravy13

LtEve you do know the man laying in hospital was deaf and classed as vulnerable…

Many drug dealers are classed as vulnerable. It’s how they get sucked into that awful world.

Further to my last post. I forgot to mention a really interesting podcast on YouTube by Rafe Heydel - Mankoo.

It is about Immigration and the Division of Society on the UK today.
With why diversity and other factors have just not worked And what was the Agenda behind this and other related issues

It is called The Sickening Lies of Britain

It originates from the the NewCultureForum

Whether you like the presenter or not. I think he has some really important things to say about how and why we have got to this point. He also seems well informed and highly intelligent.

He discussed many of the issues that people may think about but are just not brave enough to talk through.

Newcultureforum is a Tufton Street based organisation, which tells me quite a lot about it's politics. It's recently hosted and promoted talks by Matt Goodwin and has an evening with Harrison Pitt (Restore Britain) coming up in September. It's a "no" from me then.

@WithNobsOnIt

‘ He discussed many of the issues that people may think about but are just not brave enough to talk through.’

I doubt it is difficult to discuss the issues you refer to, perhaps a decade or so ago it would have been thought inflammatory but today it seems anything goes. Indeed I have yet to see anyone who insists they can’t discuss immigration/asylum seekers in a way that could be construed as hostile or racist actually keep quiet about it. Today it is not only acceptable but mainstream politics.

I agree Fallingstar people seem to talk about the things they say they are not allowed to talk about rather loudly now.

Ilovecheese

I agree Fallingstar people seem to talk about the things they say they are not allowed to talk about rather loudly now.

I think people have been talking loudly about things they're 'not allowed to say' for quite some time. I recall people saying that they're 'not allowed to call it Christmas any more' and 'we're not allowed to call it black coffee' many years ago.

Peaseblossom

At first it was thought he was a Somali but he's actually Sudanese. What an evil person. The poor victim has now lost his eye. He has sustained deep cuts to his head, face and back. While in hospital receiving treatment for a hand injury, the attacker told medical staff I will kill you! Just send him back! He's an illegal immigrant and shouldn't be here.

Whilst I agree that he ought to be deported when found guilty, the perpetrator is not an illegal immigrant. He was given leave to remain until 2028 in 2023.

Basgetti

Peaseblossom

At first it was thought he was a Somali but he's actually Sudanese. What an evil person. The poor victim has now lost his eye. He has sustained deep cuts to his head, face and back. While in hospital receiving treatment for a hand injury, the attacker told medical staff I will kill you! Just send him back! He's an illegal immigrant and shouldn't be here.

Whilst I agree that he ought to be deported when found guilty, the perpetrator is not an illegal immigrant. He was given leave to remain until 2028 in 2023.

Shockingly he was fast tracked and did not even have a face to face interview. He just filled in a questionnaire to claim asylum.

Fast tracked or not, he was in NI legally. Facts matter.

Criticising the fast track system is one thing, saying he was here illegally is simply not true.

LtEve

GrannyGravy13

LtEve you do know the man laying in hospital was deaf and classed as vulnerable…

Many drug dealers are classed as vulnerable. It’s how they get sucked into that awful world.

I’m not sure what’s being said here. Both victim and perpetrator are drug dealers? And yet, it’s also being reported that the perp had only just moved into that apartment block a week ago, seven asylum seekers in the same block. How could they all be known to one another?

Seeing the headlines about last night's rioting in Belfast my DH commented that there has been no reporting of any arrests, even though what is happening is clearly arrestable behaviour. I had been thinking that too.

Why would this be? Fear of the perpetrators? Fear of provoking worse 'action'?

16 arrests, 12 police officers injured MaizieD BBC news.

It was on the news first thing MaizieD, I think at the time (I was in the car) it said there were sixteen arrests and a number of police injured.

Snap Jaxjacky!

Belfast has a severe housing/ renting shortage. And yes I’m more than aware that most cities do.
But listening to residents who were protesting it’s clear that a huge part of that anger is not directed at the colour of a man’s skin but the fact that a lot of empty properties and being bought up by the likes of SERCO to house migrants with a guaranteed income for 7 years.

That’s the same all across the UK. Properties being bought up and divided into bedsits to accommodate more people. Guaranteed rent and if any damage occurs it’s put right at no cost to the owner. People are making a lot of money. For some, asylum seekers are big income.

The vigilante element amongst the protesters is what I found disturbing, I was watching the live cameras on Sky last night, and men dressed all in black, wearing balaclavas were setting fires, throwing bricks with no provocation, clearly aiming to cause as much trouble as they could, the police did a brilliant job stop it escalating again. I was left thinking that these were not ordinary locals, it was an organised protest with thugs just out to cause maximum disruption. I would have been very scared to be in their path, I hope they arrest and charge many more.

ronib

The Daily Mail reported that in 2001 the victim was very badly injured - set on fire - and he returned to Belfast from Scotland. Drug trafficking with 14 year prison sentences for one man. Odd.

So he’s guilty by association with a drug dealer of actually being a drug dealer.
I hope your never called for jury service

One of the Police Officials was giving a comprehensive account of the response so far, saying that Officers from the mainland were being brought in to help.
His account was disrupted by the Breaking News about the resignation of the Defence Minister so we didn't get to hear it all.

Tufton Street's propaganda output, no thanks. Didn't they push Liz Truss to the fore? Disaster.
(In response to a post upthread.)

On the BBC it said they’re firing pretend bullets, water cannons and bringing in dogs plus police from Scotland. They’re throwing everything at it.

Also, on the same info thread it was stated it’s not an organised protest, mainly children last night according to a local councillor on the ground.

They definitely weren’t children when I was watching Silvershadow, you could tell by their size and girth. That was at about 10pm though, there were several hundred of them, maybe the children had gone home by then.

You could well be right but I didn’t watch the news.