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Equality and Diversity Laws, should these be scrapped??

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MissAdventure Tue 09-Jun-26 15:34:26

Ensuring every single person has access to public transport is as it shouldd be.
Whether by using ramps, wheeling their chair at certain points, using a hoist, lift, or whatever it takes, is as it should be.

Its public transport, for all members of the public.

MissAdventure Tue 09-Jun-26 15:27:03

No, thee exact opposite.

lovemarmite Tue 09-Jun-26 15:26:24

Replying to MissAdventure…..
. This is ‘preferential treatment’ as not everybody needs assistance to get on and off a train. Are you saying that this should not be allowed?

lovemarmite Tue 09-Jun-26 15:24:23

One example is…. One of my family needs assistance when travelling by train, to get on and off. This right to assistance is enshrined in Equality law. It is bad enough now, the haphazard nature of this help, imagine if there wasn’t a law to make train companies offer it and disabled travellers had to rely on train staff just using common sense!

MissAdventure Tue 09-Jun-26 15:19:56

You have to treat people as individuals, that's all.
It shouldn't mean preferential treatmenr, in any way, shape or form.

Cossy Tue 09-Jun-26 15:16:01

E&D (in my opinion) only becomes divisive when not used or applied correctly.

It’s not just about skin colour it’s about levelling the playing field for a whole host of minorities, not just ethnicity.

Positive discrimination has utterly backfired, but that doesn’t mean prejudice and discrimination doesn’t still exist in many areas.

25Avalon Tue 09-Jun-26 14:28:46

All people should be treated fairly, not one section get preferential treatment over another. Then Martin Luther’s dream will become reality where it matters not what the colour of your skin is but what you are inside. EDI doesn’t achieve that and imo makes for more divisiveness plus costing a fortune which could be better spent elsewhere.

Maremia Tue 09-Jun-26 14:22:13

Thanks MaizieD

MaizieD Tue 09-Jun-26 14:19:16

Just in case people don't understand your reference to flesh eating worms

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c936r25grrlo

Maremia Tue 09-Jun-26 14:12:54

Yes, as part of the Doge waste reducing cuts, they got rid of the department looking out for the spread of those flesh eating worms.
An outbreak has occurred, and now Canada is boycotting the purchase of Texan beef.
Not the same as DEI cuts, I do understand, but from the same negative philosophy.

imaround Tue 09-Jun-26 14:04:31

This sounds a lot like the anti-DEI push in the US.

FWIW, the anti-DEI push here has led the Trump administration to investigate a school district for discrimination against white people.

www.denver7.com/news/investigations/u-s-department-of-education-investigating-cherry-creek-schools-for-racially-discriminatory-programming

I hope getting rid of it works out better for you all then it did for us.

Tuliptree Tue 09-Jun-26 13:23:09

Let's just clarify the issue. She is not proposing the scrapping of E and D laws but of the rules that require public bodies to consider promoting equality in their decisions.

Cossy Tue 09-Jun-26 13:17:44

Kemi Badenoch wishes all pubic sector organisations to completely ignore E&D and the E&D laws to be scrapped.

She explains very eloquently why and thinks it’ll be a step back to common sense.

I do not wish E&D to be scrapped, anywhere, for any group.

These laws protect everyone and cover a myriad of different things, not just ethnicity, but those who are disabled, women, gays people, for example are all covered.

What is really like to see is “a common sense” approach to the application of these laws and properly rolled out training once a year and laws reviewed to ensure that do safeguard all involved.

Whilst I can see why KB feels this way and expresses her opinions on this well and fairly, I feel it would be a retrograde step back and would possibly cause more problems than it resolves. I think it’s a knee jerk and understandable reaction to the awful events of the last few weeks, including the most recent stabbing in Belfast and people are rightly concerned and anxious.

What do you think?