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He has done it! The toolmakers son has resigned!

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Sago Mon 22-Jun-26 09:34:10

Feelings?

Could Mr Burnham restore Labour?

Primrose53 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:31:44

Wyllow3

ixion

A toolmaker's son

So what?
Totally unnecessary and disparaging.

Not just that, but what the O/P does not seem to recognise, it is disparaging to a whole class or group of people who make up our society. Such snobbery*.

Oh come on! How many times did KS trot out the line about his father being a toolmaker. He said it at every occasion until it became a standing joke.

ronib Mon 22-Jun-26 10:31:02

NotSpaghetti okay I rephrase the question … why was Stephen Bray allowed to disrupt a very solemn moment when Starmer spoke?

Wyllow3 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:30:50

MayBee70

What a sick disrespectful heading for one of the most decent honourable politicians you'll ever find. Shame on you...

Sago Please can you request that your title be altered TBH, It is really goady, and it spoiling. We've surely had enough on "goadiness" recently to last a lifetime.

It was important to bring it up - but a reconsideration of the title -

how about

"He has done it! Starmer resigned!

has the punch necessary to get us going?

Cressy Mon 22-Jun-26 10:30:24

Such a spiteful and mean spirited OP. At least KS has shown some dignity this morning. Too much to hope that the poster asks for the title to be edited…..

CatsWhiskas Mon 22-Jun-26 10:29:26

nanna8

But he was a toolmaker’s son, wasn’t he ? Why so disparaging about toolmakers ? I don’t see that as an insult but tradies are very much respected in my country.

It's not disparaging about toolmakers, but it doesn't define Starmer, who has some very admirable qualities.

Meandrogrog Mon 22-Jun-26 10:28:55

Cossy

Primrose53

I’m sure he won’t be missed. His own people and party turned on him so what did he expect.

I felt a tad sympathetic when he nearly started blubbing then I thought “no, he’s brought this on himself” because he was so useless. He actually tried to make out the slight reduction in small boat crossings was down to him but we all know it was the bad weather that stopped them.

I’m sure that actually he will be missed.

Find your post just a little offensive.

Actually, just to be factual, 60,000 migrants deported, 500 boats stopped at source, 300 traffikers identified and arrested. All since July 2024. How does that compare with 3 volunteers being paid to go to Rwanda?

There is absolutely nothing offensive about your post whatsoever in any way. You are quite correct, I have always thought Starmer should have been more innovative but he is a rule taker when he should have been a rule maker.

He will not be missed any more than any other PM. Politics is about next weeks news, not last weeks.

NotSpaghetti Mon 22-Jun-26 10:28:53

ronib

Why was Ode to Joy being sung at the start of Starmer’s resignation speech?

As I said upthread:

So annoying to have Steve Bray blasting out (EU unofficial anthem) Ode to Joy

At least it wasn't Benny Hill though.

nanna8 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:26:57

But he was a toolmaker’s son, wasn’t he ? Why so disparaging about toolmakers ? I don’t see that as an insult but tradies are very much respected in my country.

Cossy Mon 22-Jun-26 10:24:49

paddyann54

Musical chairs at Westminster….for heavens sake didn,t we have enough that with the tories .Why can’t people make a choice and stick with it for ONE whole parliamentary term.
I,m not a Labour supporter but this nonsense of people bullied out of their posts is ridiculous..
How many more before the system is totally destroyed?
Thought it was just young folk who couldn,t stick with anything for more than five minutes!
Sadly Burnham is still a supporter of Netanyahu and the arms will still flow to kill Palestinian children
Shame on them all !

Yes! 👏👏👏👏👏

Cossy Mon 22-Jun-26 10:24:19

MayBee70

What a sick disrespectful heading for one of the most decent honourable politicians you'll ever find. Shame on you...

I utterly agree. Totally nasty and unnecessary.

Naturally, lots of people are “pleased”, many are not!

paddyann54 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:22:58

Musical chairs at Westminster….for heavens sake didn,t we have enough that with the tories .Why can’t people make a choice and stick with it for ONE whole parliamentary term.
I,m not a Labour supporter but this nonsense of people bullied out of their posts is ridiculous..
How many more before the system is totally destroyed?
Thought it was just young folk who couldn,t stick with anything for more than five minutes!
Sadly Burnham is still a supporter of Netanyahu and the arms will still flow to kill Palestinian children
Shame on them all !

MayBee70 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:22:39

What a sick disrespectful heading for one of the most decent honourable politicians you'll ever find. Shame on you...

Cossy Mon 22-Jun-26 10:21:03

Primrose53

I’m sure he won’t be missed. His own people and party turned on him so what did he expect.

I felt a tad sympathetic when he nearly started blubbing then I thought “no, he’s brought this on himself” because he was so useless. He actually tried to make out the slight reduction in small boat crossings was down to him but we all know it was the bad weather that stopped them.

I’m sure that actually he will be missed.

Find your post just a little offensive.

Actually, just to be factual, 60,000 migrants deported, 500 boats stopped at source, 300 traffikers identified and arrested. All since July 2024. How does that compare with 3 volunteers being paid to go to Rwanda?

TerriBull Mon 22-Jun-26 10:20:05

Cossy

Sarnia

It's like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. One thing I hope Burnham does is to sack Rachel Reeves. One of the worst Chancellors we have ever had.

Sadly I agree!

Yes I'm inclined to agree with that too. Although, as always, time will tell.

Flippin2 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:19:56

I don't believe Andy Burnham,if he gets the position,will be any better.The people of Makerfield voted to get rid of Kier Starmer,it was already a Labour seat. I'm not a supporter of Starmer but he's a human being with feelings,he had to jump before he was pushed.

ronib Mon 22-Jun-26 10:19:55

Why was Ode to Joy being sung at the start of Starmer’s resignation speech?

Cossy Mon 22-Jun-26 10:18:14

Sarnia

It's like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. One thing I hope Burnham does is to sack Rachel Reeves. One of the worst Chancellors we have ever had.

Sadly I agree!

Primrose53 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:17:42

I’m sure he won’t be missed. His own people and party turned on him so what did he expect.

I felt a tad sympathetic when he nearly started blubbing then I thought “no, he’s brought this on himself” because he was so useless. He actually tried to make out the slight reduction in small boat crossings was down to him but we all know it was the bad weather that stopped them.

NotSpaghetti Mon 22-Jun-26 10:16:40

And yes, Sago, please could you ask for a title change?

Elusivebutterfly Mon 22-Jun-26 10:15:38

I think it is quite sad. I prefer Starmer to Burnham. He has been good on the international stage. His one major error was appointing Mandelson.
Starmer's failing is lack of charisma. People vote for charisma, hence they voted for Boris. I prefer integrity, intelligence and hard work.

Magenta8 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:14:32

What puzzles me is that the sins and omissions of Starmer pale into utter insignificance beside those of the orange baby but Trump is still there. Things must be very different in the USA.

Wyllow3 Mon 22-Jun-26 10:13:59

ixion

A toolmaker's son

So what?
Totally unnecessary and disparaging.

Not just that, but what the O/P does not seem to recognise, it is disparaging to a whole class or group of people who make up our society. Such snobbery*.

NotSpaghetti Mon 22-Jun-26 10:13:31

I agree Cossy.
I remember him being interviewed by James O'brien ages ago.
I was relieved later when it was clear we were having a thoughtful and considerate person in no.10.

Not a fan of his "style" but I'm sorry to see him go.

It's here, from 2022, in case anyone is interested:
youtu.be/ra0QsG6EihY?is=w78NBlH4E08lYCNW

westendgirl Mon 22-Jun-26 10:13:13

Please could the person who posted this disgraceful title ask for it to be taken down
I fear this is a sad day for this country and agree with so many of the comments about the way people have been led by the media . I don't think Keir Starmer stood a chance with their constant jibes which started before he took office.
I still do not know why Burnham has been pushed into this . What are his policies ? The Labour Party has let down its members.

TerriBull Mon 22-Jun-26 10:12:43

Having said that, possibly it's time for Labour not to have someone from the small pool of the London Metropolitan elite. The north does at times feel under represented. I speak as a southerner.