Govt announces Ukrainian style scheme to bring thousands more migrants to UK

Primrose53

You said it Catswhiskas! Or is that twaddle? 😉

www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-immigrants-and-foreign-criminals-to-be-removed

Your link opens to 29 June news story: "Illegal immigrants and foreign criminals to be removed. More than 45,000 foreign criminals and failed asylum seekers will be removed over the coming decade thanks to a significant expansion of detention capacity.

Different to the asylum scheme you OP refers to on 26th June.

Lemonjam, if it is families !!, but as it is open to all, I am assuming? Not just women and children? I have not checked, then the men seem to be the ones coming over and leaving the women and children behind. If we did not have so many illegals entering, draining our economy there would be more people welcoming this idea, however the system has broken and it’s costing too much and the infrastructure is not there, it is a big problem.

I can only suggest you read Gov.uk "Mamood: My reforms will save the asylum system for a generation" to understand what is actually being proposed

It's a community sponsorship scheme to allow communities and organisations (that will become accredited organisations) to sponsor refugees to resettle in their area, taking responsibility to house, integrate and support them into work for a designated small number at first- and all vetted and application processed before arrival

Maremia

The clue is in tbe name
ASYLUM seekers
They are fleeing wars and persecution.
What on earth has that to do with contraception!!!!

Isn't that obvious. While their population it more than doubling every generation they don't have the infrastructure the space the food and end up in Civil War and have to flee.

Will it just be British citizens who can offer sponsorship, or will it be a method of by-passing the regulations covering requests to allow family members to join people who have been given a right to remain?

LemonJam

Primrose53

You said it Catswhiskas! Or is that twaddle? 😉

www.gov.uk/government/news/illegal-immigrants-and-foreign-criminals-to-be-removed

Your link opens to 29 June news story: "Illegal immigrants and foreign criminals to be removed. More than 45,000 foreign criminals and failed asylum seekers will be removed over the coming decade thanks to a significant expansion of detention capacity.

Different to the asylum scheme you OP refers to on 26th June.

I know that thanks. I was just pointing out that the Home Office use the term “illegal immigrants” which a few on here find offensive.

LemonJam

I can only suggest you read Gov.uk "Mamood: My reforms will save the asylum system for a generation" to understand what is actually being proposed

It's a community sponsorship scheme to allow communities and organisations (that will become accredited organisations) to sponsor refugees to resettle in their area, taking responsibility to house, integrate and support them into work for a designated small number at first- and *all vetted and application processed before arrival*

Good luck with getting them all vetted and approved then. There was new footage yesterday of a packed large rubber dinghy full of young men throwing their passports into the Channel.

What I can never understand is this. IF you are genuinely fleeing war or danger in your home country surely the first thing you would want to hang on to is your passport and other credentials to prove who you are and where you are from. Without that you are a nobody. So why destroy it?

Most of us travel abroad and we know we won’t get into another country without our passports.

In your link, the illegal immigrant refried to is a failed asylum seeker that is after their asylum application has failed they thus have been fully screened and assessed and have no legal right to remain in the UK, thus now, in the government's assessment term, an illegal immigrant.

I object however to the term illegal immigrant being incorrectly applied to those who arrive at a UK border seeking asylum offensive because everyone has the right to seek asylum legally under the 1951 Human Convention AND they are following UK government instructions.

Therefore it is less offensive to refer to asylum seekers by the term asylum seeker or refugee rather than an illegal immigrant which can be deemed offensive.

We hosted a lovely Ukrainian girl for a year. While she was with us, she continued with her degree on line, worked 2 jobs and went to English classes. Would we host a fighting age man from a totally different culture? Not a chance. I see these thousands of undocumented young men arriving on boats as an invading army. We have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds or not. And I'm absolutely furious that our government hasn't dealt with it properly. Shocking.

What do you think is going on in Sudan?

If we bring more immigrants in, how on earth are we going to be able to pay for the Defences we so badly need, and apparently cannot afford. We are letting our NATO allies down as well as ourselves.
I despair of the financial state of our country now.

Our Government has ACCELERATED the vetting process, in the short time it has been in power.
Just because it's not been headlining in The Mail or the Telegraph or GB News does not mean it has not been happening.
That is 'doing something'.

Sarnia

That will pretty much sound the death knell of this Government, irrespective of who is PM. I am not anti-migrant. I have no issue with families relocating here for a better life. However, the amount of single young men concerns me greatly. Many of their cultures do not respect or value women. They bring those beliefs with them and we read about many sexually motivated crimes committed against girls and young women. It does not bode well for our country.

Hear, hear. Nice to hear someone say it as it is. For a change. Instead of trying to sound like holier than thou and very liberal.

Milliedog

We hosted a lovely Ukrainian girl for a year. While she was with us, she continued with her degree on line, worked 2 jobs and went to English classes. Would we host a fighting age man from a totally different culture? Not a chance. I see these thousands of undocumented young men arriving on boats as an invading army. We have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds or not. And I'm absolutely furious that our government hasn't dealt with it properly. Shocking.

Yep. Definitely true.

It’s like painting by numbers on here sometimes. Just look at the evidence.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70989jrdweo

Sadly, Casdon those who should follow this link won't believe the information even if they do because GB news and the Daily Mail will tell them a different story.

Macaydia

What about young British citizens who cant afford their own homes? Is there a scheme for that?

Well said. They are definitely the priority for me.

If we don't want people coming through illegal routes then we need legal routes don't we?

I'd be concerned I offended them culturally and ended up being accused of racism.

Sorry 4allweknow when would you be concerned you had offended someone culturally?

WithNobsOnIt

Milliedog

We hosted a lovely Ukrainian girl for a year. While she was with us, she continued with her degree on line, worked 2 jobs and went to English classes. Would we host a fighting age man from a totally different culture? Not a chance. I see these thousands of undocumented young men arriving on boats as an invading army. We have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds or not. And I'm absolutely furious that our government hasn't dealt with it properly. Shocking.

Yep. Definitely true.

And here are some of these young men who dont deserve asylum? Just read this article

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8k4pz91n5o

That article is truly shocking Wyllow3.

She isnt, she took in 2 Ukraine families, re read the article

mumofmadboys

That article is truly shocking Wyllow3.

Different cultures behave differently. They should stay where they are.

LemonJam

What's the difference between taking in a Ukrainian family, ie women and children to taking in a Somali family?

It won’t just be women and children tho will it?