Rochdale - Grooming gang leader released from jail today

Luckygirl3

I am surprised he was not lynched in.prison! It must have been hard to keep him safe ...

I would imagine he had a lot of protection from like minded prisoners.

Luckygirl3

I am surprised he was not lynched in.prison! It must have been hard to keep him safe ...

Doubt it, he’s probably in there with his mates. So many of them in the system.

I am surprised he was not lynched in.prison! It must have been hard to keep him safe ...

eazybee

I wonder if anyone knows where he is now. Still no answer as to why he was released before serving the remaining eight years of his sentence when he still a dangerous man and a threat to others.
Apparently Mahmood has discovered a loophole which will enable him to be deported to be announced on Monday. Why the delay? To allow the human rights lawyers to prepare their objections?

The answer as to why he was released is that that is the mandatory system at the moment. He was given 22 years, he had to be released after serving two thirds. He was released on licence and is probably in some sort of probation run hostel. He applied for parole earlier but was ( rightly) refused.

His original sentence seems to lenient to me; let alone being released early.

Some way needs to be found of deporting this man or it plays into the hands of the right wing racists.

Sorry; first post vanished so rewrote it, only for it to appear as I posted second one.

I wonder if anyone knows where he is now. Still no answer as to why he was released before serving the remaining eight years of his sentence when he still a dangerous man and a threat to others.
Apparently Mahmood has discovered a loophole which will enable him to be deported to be announced on Monday. Why the delay? To allow the human rights lawyers to prepare their objections?

Apparently Mahmood has devised a plan to have him deported which will be announced on Monday, allowing him time to disappear and the Human rights Lawyers to prevent his .

As mentioned up thread, the country Pakistan, I imagine is more reliant on us than we are on them. Revoking visas would be one pressure that could be brought to bear on them, that would pretty much be a one way traffic, I can't imagine too many people from here wanting to make a life there, unless they're ethnically Pakistani going back. Then there is foreign aid.

After all, I remember reading about a criminal in Australia, serial rapist who'd hardly ever lived here, and we had to take him back. Of course no country would want a criminal element back who has long since departed the parent country if they could get round it. From what we read, the Pakistani groomers are far more aligned culturally to the country they emanated from than they are with Britain, a culture which in many instances they deride.

We can change our law, but in order to deport them, we are reliant on the country where they were originally from agreeing to take them back, which is very unlikely I would think.

I hope that it will be possible to change the law to deport this loathsome man, and potentially, other foreign nationals who have committed despicable crimes such as his, after their sentence has been served.

I've looked this up and of course remember now that there were two trials.

Trial 1 (May 2012): He was convicted alongside the rest of the Rochdale grooming gang for conspiracy and child sex offenses. For these crimes he got 19 years.

​Trial 2 (August 2012): he was tried separately for a massive string of 30 rapes against a single young Asian girl that spanned over a decade. For these crimes, a different judge sentenced him to 22 years.

The terms were concurrent so he was now due for release.

I thought it was 19 years and he served 14?

Cossy - it was a 22 year sentence as has already been said. He was released after serving two thirds on licence which is the current system whether we like it or not

Galaxy

Sorry I am jumping the gun a bit there. They are changing the law in order that he can be deported.

Hope Shamima Mahmood achieves this but won’t hold my breath. I really hope I’m wrong though.

Sunshinegirls

Why didn't they just leave him in prison to serve his full sentence, no person convicted of rape, murder or terror related etc should be let out of prison early. Why not just release white collar related criminals ie fraud etc who are not a danger to the general public.

I entirely agree!

Fallingstar

14 years served of a 41 year sentence, whilst his victims will live with the psychological scars for a lifetime.
The law is an ass.

It is indeed. Chemical castration??

Sorry I am jumping the gun a bit there. They are changing the law in order that he can be deported.

He is being deported.

I had a friend who started courting this bloke, both mid 50s.
He was never away from Thailand.
I am not saying going with youngsters, but maybe young woman for sex.
I said I would not touch him with a barge pole!
Something not right there.

Casdon

He has lived in the UK for over 55 years. Why would Pakistan volunteer to take back a criminal who was the citizen of another country and had lived there for over 55 years? The UK wouldn’t in a similar scenario, and I would bet that there are plenty of equally repulsive British sleazes in Thailand, for example.

Oh I bet there is Casdon.
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He has lived in the UK for over 55 years. Why would Pakistan volunteer to take back a criminal who was the citizen of another country and had lived there for over 55 years? The UK wouldn’t in a similar scenario, and I would bet that there are plenty of equally repulsive British sleazes in Thailand, for example.

He will never be deported, don’t know who they are trying to kid.
Took years & years for hooky to be deported, whilst his whole family lived in a nice council property down London.
I hope this guy messes up his parole (I don’t mean to sexually assault any young girl) but something that will revoke his license.
Hopefully send him where Huntley served his sentence.

There is a groundswell of action around this shameful, shameful abandonment of this country's children but is it too little, too late.

This person was the ringleader, organising from his Rocdale Council desk the logistics of getting a £20 per head fee to rape a child. He did it with impunity, without fear.
How?

This individual knows where the bodies are buried, knows names, dates, contacts. Isn't it strange that after years of inaction, of lost files, of cover ups and simply, blatantly ignoring all the horror that the establishment now want him hurriedly deported as a matter of utmost urgency. If he gets deported the opportunity to have him stood up in court to be questioned about who, what, when and where will be lost forever.

It stinks.

Fallingstar

He has to go, to do otherwise sends out the entirely wrong message.
Unfortunately as with the majority of sex offenders I imagine this man will just start offending again, is a compulsion.
Those who are home grown should be imprisoned for life or chemically castrated and those from other countries should be deported.
Zero tolerance.

I completely agree!