Extreme Right Wing Views

Crikey- the extreme end of the continuum of right wings views.

As he had right wing items on show in his bedroom, where on earth were his parents?

This is a complex case also because of the diagnosis, similar to the Southport killer, there will likely have been professional involvement as well.
I would be interested in what that involved and the red flags along the way.

It's the propaganda and the racism fed into him so easily available on social media that is shocking to lead to this and of great concern. The Far Right, as we know, needs policing and is on the list of Intelligence Service concerns.

This needed to come out so thank you to the O/P.

Given his age, one has to ask what were the parental POV views? Or were they frightened of him?

Wyllow3

It's the propaganda and the racism fed into him so easily available on social media that is shocking to lead to this and of great concern. The Far Right, as we know, needs policing and is on the list of Intelligence Service concerns.

This needed to come out so thank you to the O/P.

Given his age, one has to ask what were the parental POV views? Or were they frightened of him?

I utterly agree with all you say.

When my own son was 17 it was lockdown. I’d done some radicalisation training both through work and role as school governor and I was seriously worried about him l, as he became very withdrawn and spent hours and hours on his computer in his bedroom.

I eventually tackled it, having spoken to his older siblings. It turned out he was very depressed due to being “kept in” and just stopped talking and sleeping. I did ask about his online content and he was into some very dubious music.

He was fine, eventually, but it scared me that he could have so easily be drawn into some nightmare virtual world and I’ve been a little bit more vigilant since, having undertaken some pretty “dark” training about what people, children and adults, can so easily be exposed to.

We are not talking about “dark web” here, we are talking about online games chat rooms, and “influencers” on tik-tok and sometimes u-tube, all things readily available online.

Scary world we now inhabit.

This is a tragic and frightening example of a boy from age 14 pursuing these extreme ideologies. Most people with autism live successful lives and contribute to society, despite coping and managing in a neurotypical world. However I just think it shows how little ongoing specialist support there is for young people diagnosed with autism. His parents should have done more by screaming from the rooftops about what he was doing. But they were probably completely worn down by his obsession and, yes I'm speculating here, but he was likely ruling the roost at home. It's also very likely they tried to get help but sadly there is very little ongoing support and excellence of care to support the family. Until it is recognised that these young people need early and continual intervention it will continue.

He's "on the spectrum" as per the defence, but that really doesn't tell us much as regards mild to extremely serious.

We don't know any of that though do we, unless I have missed it, we don't know what specialist support he did or didn't have.

Well it hasn't been mentioned at all and if for example he had been in Special Education it most certainly would have come out?

I would say most young people with autism are now in mainstream provision. I wonder how much will come out in that he was thankfully intercepted before he could cause harm. With the Southport killer there is obviously an investigation which highlights the failings of professionals, family, etc. I am guessing that won't happen in this case?

It says he has autism. So yes there would have been educational provision but sadly that is variable across the country. And in extreme cases it isn't anywhere near enough support.

He may have been diagnosed with autism after he was arrested.
The Judge referred to 'Autistic Spectrum disorder traits' and as he was 22 it would be at least four years since he left school, and did not appear to be receiving medication or support as the result of any diagnosis.
Once again, it comes down to parenting.

Plevey08

It says he has autism. So yes there would have been educational provision but sadly that is variable across the country. And in extreme cases it isn't anywhere near enough support.

And in many cases distraught parents find no education for their autistic kids at all so they stay at home.Some are very impressionable as well, have no friends and online groups suck them in.