Police launch an investigation into Ann Widdecombe death

We do not know she was terrified.
All this is speculation.

It doesn't bear rhinking about; the fear.
It must be terrible.

NotSpaghetti

We do not know she was terrified.
All this is speculation.

That’s a strange comment. Who wouldn’t be terrified being attacked in their own home

Well done to the police ... a speedy arrest.
They have said not a political motive.

sundowngirl

NotSpaghetti

We do not know she was terrified.
All this is speculation.

That’s a strange comment. Who wouldn’t be terrified being attacked in their own home

We don’t know yet whether she knew, or was taken unawares though, so it’s wrong to speculate.

The Nicola Bulley thread was far from Gransnet’s finest hour, I wouldn’t want to see that repeated. Ann Widdecombe’s murder was horrific, but nothing can be gained from embroidering the facts we’ve been given to date. We will find out more very soon from those who are directly involved.

Casdon

sundowngirl

NotSpaghetti

We do not know she was terrified.
All this is speculation.

That’s a strange comment. Who wouldn’t be terrified being attacked in their own home

We don’t know yet whether she knew, or was taken unawares though, so it’s wrong to speculate.

The Nicola Bulley thread was far from Gransnet’s finest hour, I wouldn’t want to see that repeated. Ann Widdecombe’s murder was horrific, but nothing can be gained from embroidering the facts we’ve been given to date. We will find out more very soon from those who are directly involved.

So you think it’s wrong to “speculate”that she must’ve been terrified?
I find this a very strange comment…

Oh please ladies. Can we just wait and see exactly what the police and coroner say.

Speculation is useful.

Yes, the situation itself is scary.

Let’s just not keep jumping on each others every word. It’s not healthy.

Please

Goodnight one and all

*not useful!

Yes I do Shinamae, until we know what happened exactly. I think it’s wrong to speculate at all about the manner of her death without the facts, it’s hurtful to the family who must already be thinking up all sorts of scenarios. The Nicola Bulley case brought that home to me in technicolour.

Casdon

Yes I do Shinamae, until we know what happened exactly. I think it’s wrong to speculate at all about the manner of her death without the facts, it’s hurtful to the family who must already be thinking up all sorts of scenarios. The Nicola Bulley case brought that home to me in technicolour.

I’m not speculating about the manner of her death. I’m saying that she must’ve been absolutely terrified and I stand by that……..

Cossy

Oh please ladies. Can we just wait and see exactly what the police and coroner say.

Speculation is useful.

Yes, the situation itself is scary.

Let’s just not keep jumping on each others every word. It’s not healthy.

Please

Goodnight one and all

I think you should practice what you preach…

I don't think that's speculation I think it is empathy.

So you know that she wasn’t taken unaware by being hit from behind and knocked out. How you know that, I don’t know. By all means you stick to your guns - and I’ll stick to mine, in the light of what I’ve learned about the danger of speculating about the manner of death. Once we are told, we will know.

Galaxy

I don't think that's speculation I think it is empathy.

No, at this stage it is definitely speculation. Being murdered is horrific, and I’m sure everybody feels empathy for her meeting her end that way. I hate speculation about the manner of death and how she felt, without the facts, though, sorry but I think it’s intrusive.

Oh well, thats another thread that's pointless then.
Until anybody knows anything as fact, its all speculation.

I've just read the most disgusting comments online from a Scottish IT university worker.
She wrote on her social media
Some good news. I hope she had a painful death. I hope she was handcuffed to the bed and died screaming in agony.
I'm so disgusted with the person who wrote this. Ĥer friends and family will see it as it's in multiple online news sites. My husband has met Ann a few times when he was at work and said she was a very nice, pleasant lady to talk to.
The woman who wrote this hate speech should be prosecuted imo. Whether you agreed with Ann's politics or not when someone has died you should show respect.
It's shocking.

Foul woman.
I do hope she faces some sort of comeback for that.
Its repulsive!

That has been mentioned upthread,the university where he works have released a statement that they are investigating his comments.

The thread is following the information released about the murder investigation, though MissA, which is factual. I just think that when somebody has been murdered or has disappeared, we should not speculate about their feelings because that hurts people close to them. Maybe I’m wrong, but my head goes back to the impact on Nicola Bulley’s husband and children of the speculation about exactly what happened to her.

It's about time online "warriors" fsce repercussions.

Luckygirl3

That really does sound premedidated and targeted.

Yes it does. Why would anybody drive 270 miles taking a weapon with them without a motive? If he’s a loner who sits at home maybe on a computer or watching TV and hearing stuff like ”Reform are the greatest threat to the UK” then it may just tip him over the edge.

MissAdventure I agree.

MissAdventure

It's about time online "warriors" fsce repercussions.

I think so too

Galaxy

That has been mentioned upthread,the university where he works have released a statement that they are investigating his comments.

The person who posted this is transgender, who now identifies as female, but biologically male.

Galaxy

I don't think that's speculation I think it is empathy.

Exactly.

I have quietly hoped she was unaware and taken by surprise with no time to feel fear. That's not speculation, it's a human response to a horrible event, one where you hope the victim didn't suffer.