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Gaza, I despair.

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greyfur Thu 16-Jul-26 21:00:19

What those people must be going through. Having had a few hot days gives us some understanding. To be without water and a home in the heat.The whole place is destroyed. And now Trump is waiting for Netanyahu to finish it off.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 15:26:19

No. It's just human nature. I'm surprised you don't see that.

Rosie51 Wed 29-Jul-26 15:03:44

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Samwam Wed 29-Jul-26 14:53:50

A peice from The Tribune.
Palestinians to Burnham:
Do no harm.

UK Prime Minister Andy Burnham, in his tongue-in-cheek apology for Labour’s position on Palestine, stated that his party under Keir Starmer ‘didn’t get it right’ and needs to ‘do better.’ This must be the mother of all British understatements.

Britain under Labour, just as under the Conservatives, has been complicit in arming, justifying, and whitewashing apartheid Israel’s genocide against 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza, its intensified ethnic cleansing of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and its ongoing Nakba against the entire Palestinian people. This is on top of the UK’s unique responsibility for the establishment of Israel in 1948 as a settler-colony through the planned destruction of the Palestinian homeland and the ethnic cleansing of most of the Indigenous Palestinians.

A UN Commission of Inquiry has recently confirmed that Israel is committing an ongoing genocide against the Palestinian people. This is in harmony with the near consensus of human rights organizations, United Nations human rights experts, and the International Association of Genocide Scholars.

Describing Israel’s genocide, Orly Noy, the chair of Israel’s leading human rights organization B’Tselem, recently wrote, ‘Israel is unleashing a holocaust in Gaza, and it cannot be dismissed as the will of the country’s current fascist leaders alone.. . . . What we are witnessing is the final stage in the nazification of Israeli society.’ The UK could and should ‘do better’ than being complicit in all that.

Samwam Wed 29-Jul-26 14:42:57

Belgium just intercepted two UK military shipments bound for Israel right at Liège Airport! 🚫✈️ Under strict new transit laws,
no arms-carrying planes allowed in Belgian airspace—zero exceptions. Even without a permit request,
authorities made it clear: access denied. Tensions are peaking! 🌍⚡

​so no change Burnham same as starmer

Frenchgalinspain Wed 29-Jul-26 13:09:27

Cossy

It’s genocide, it’s horrific, it’s terribly sad.

Horrifically horrendous genocide ..

Killing babies and children and women & men without arms ! And they say they believe in God !

Satan is more realistic.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 13:03:35

She is saying that the violence against the Palestinians is supported by the government, and that the settlements are illegal.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 12:43:51

Violence towards the settlers

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 12:37:40

Report on BBC News just now, about settlers violence.
Mary Robinson speaking now.
She says it is 'Government policy' now.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 11:09:53

'Independent and impartial medical care'
Surely everyone is entitled to that?

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 11:03:30

Thanks for the link. I'm happy to contribute to this.

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 10:42:32

Thanks for the charity link Wyllow

Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 10:31:53

It has been said umpteen times that any anti semitic posts on GN are reported.

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jul-26 10:29:27

Neither is excusable.

Matters may be explained but that is not the same as being excused.

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 10:28:21

How about Antipalestinism?

Anniebach Wed 29-Jul-26 10:24:27

Hardly surprising Aveline ? You are excusing antisemitism

Wyllow3 Wed 29-Jul-26 10:23:02

Yes, I want to hear what Burnham, will do. There is pressure within the LP as well as outside. We do need to do more. My MP says it is under consideration along with other foreign policy matters - ie early days

It is hard however to act and keep the balance between different strong views and needs on this one

As regards ourselves charity wise, MSF is still involved. they cannot bring doctors in but are funding Palestinian run clinics.
It is also actively involved in the West Bank.

Here is the relevant donate page with information.
msf.org.uk/article/gaza-huge-influx-aid-urgently-needed-amid-catastrophic-conditions-gaza?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21031519423&gbraid=0AAAAADn6FKeH9Zxv9JBmMOX1vqnnO5VDn&gclid=CjwKCAjwyabTBhBFEiwAM3mNUM7dK161awIRH3jTDKX6CEdwm8hice5vqsCQGpcVrXy-kNxXTC9SlxoC_jgQAvD_BwE

Aveline Wed 29-Jul-26 10:11:20

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Maremia Wed 29-Jul-26 09:25:05

Led by Donkeys has been awarded £27, 216 in compensation for an anti genocide banner, removed at a demonstration in 2024, and disposed of by Veolia.

Maremia Mon 27-Jul-26 10:56:32

That is a useful post, thanks, choughdancer.
Will look up Zaytoun products.

choughdancer Mon 27-Jul-26 09:21:33

'Plus where do you send money to help the people and children of Palestine.' There are quite a few; I regularly donate to 'Medical Aid for Palestinians' and 'War Child'. Another way to help is to buy Zaytoun products. Excellent quality and directly supports Palestinians.

Maremia Sun 26-Jul-26 21:49:02

Thanks to all who are giving updates.

Samwam Sun 26-Jul-26 19:54:47

This news from a young brave man Andrey who's an activist in Gaza trying to report whats happening, to stop settlers targeting Palestinians their homes. farms. Imagine he said being at the whims of the IDF in the illegally occupied Palestine.

❗️ Israel is preparing a massive terror campaign in the West Bank.

Checkpoints around Nablus and Ramallah are shut down, movement is heavily restricted, IDF is moving more troops into the region, and settler-terrorists are gathering to launch pogroms.

Zetters Sun 26-Jul-26 14:13:50

I can not understand why the people of Israel who suffered so very much during the holocaust can not see how history is repeating itself in Gaza .
Yes they have the right to defend themselves but there has to be a line that should not be crossed & in Gaza that line has been & is still being crossed.

Wyllow3 Sun 26-Jul-26 13:57:18

At last West Bank matters are hitting new headlines: settlers actually set fire to a Mosque. Yes - not terrorists, but a Palestinian place of worship. This is appalling.

Read here:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjrv77gl4deo

"Israeli settlers set fire to mosques, cars and farm land in West Bank, Palestinians say"

And many remain silent. 😡

We would not tolerate it in the UK, any attacks on peaceful Mosques or Synagogue or Churches

Maremia Thu 23-Jul-26 09:07:43

If anyone gets Sky online, maybe have a look for the article?