Andy Burnham now officially Leader of Labour Party.

I think AB ideas on medical hubs on the high Street is a good idea, adding in screening and x-rays etc. Not sure where they will find the staff from though In our high street we have a small hub for vaccinations...which helps our GP surgery with not having to run them anymore.

I wish him well, but after such a long time of 'no such thing as society' it will prove very difficult to get people to part with their money or privilege for the benefit of those with neither

No chance.

MayBee70 thank you for stating some of the very excellent things Sir Keir did while in office. Its seems the country doesn't want to keep a PM with honesty and integrity. I don't know AB but if he has half these qualities we may be Ok. I just worry about AR getting Health as rumored.

I think demagogue is more attributable to Boris Johnson, in all fairness.

Cossy

foxie48

I care about our country and the people who live here so I want any government of any stripe to do a good job which benefits us all. I'd also like to see parties coming together for the common good and if AB manages to that better than it's been in the last few decades, he'll make me happy. the problems we have as a society can't be fixed with short term measure so we need a degree of altruism. Impossible? Probably but I'll give anyone a chance if they are prepared to give it a go and that's what I got from his speech today.

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Absolutely.

I wish him well, but after such a long time of 'no such thing as society' it will prove very difficult to get people to part with their money or privilege for the benefit of those with neither. He might pull it off, and I hope he does, but there will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth from media (including SM such as on here) and all the sloganeering and spite that goes with that.

I really hope he sorts out social care, and that he does it with the 10% charge on all estates at death that he's talked about before. That might bring on board those who object to 40% IHT on estates worth over a million pounds, and allow those with much smaller estates to keep 90% of them if they need social care instead of having to leave nothing behind. As far as I can see, it seems a way of being fair to everyone.

I don't disagree entirely with his aim to cut the welfare bill, but that is one of those areas in which the Devil is in the detail. I'd like to see the expectation being that everyone able to work will do so, with benefits going only to those who are unable - but how that inability is measured is the dealbreaker for me. The last thing I want to see is people agonising over PIP forms and suffering UC sanctions for minor (and often unavoidable) infractions.

It is far too early to judge though - as has been said, we won't have an idea until September, so IMO it makes sense to wait until then before sniping at him.

Anyone notice R Reaves as one of the three women escorting him to the handover meeting?

“Cabinet” I meant, not “Parliament”

foxie48

I care about our country and the people who live here so I want any government of any stripe to do a good job which benefits us all. I'd also like to see parties coming together for the common good and if AB manages to that better than it's been in the last few decades, he'll make me happy. the problems we have as a society can't be fixed with short term measure so we need a degree of altruism. Impossible? Probably but I'll give anyone a chance if they are prepared to give it a go and that's what I got from his speech today.

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they all go on holiday soon don't they?

I did say earlier that I think he's made himself a hostage to fortune. So much talk of radical change and positive future achievements in his speech, He will be held to all of them

Agreed MaizieD.

He’s already talking about ‘Burnhamism’ before he’s even become the PM.

His great claims demonstrate his inflated ego and arrogance IMO.

We shall see how it all pans out!

Galaxy

But he didn't actually say anything. Other than moving power from Westminster, it was just pretty words. Was that it? There has to be more than good oration.

Monday will be the day, after which he will “officially” be PM.

He’ll assemble his parliament, then we will have Summer recess to “mull things over”. Nothing real can start happening until at least September.

As I understand things, please correct me if I’m wrong.

ronib

Another psychodrama and who cares?

One might care if suddenly things improve or get even worse ??

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Sarnia

He says he will make the biggest changes in 40 years. Quite a boast.

I did say earlier that I think he's made himself a hostage to fortune.

So much talk of radical change and positive future achievements in his speech, He will be held to all of them...

Unless he manages to come to grips with the 'Treasury View' (https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2026/07/16/whats-wrong-with-the-treasury-view/#gsc.tab=0) and the finance industry/bond markets, he will achieve very little. IMO

He says he will make the biggest changes in 40 years. Quite a boast.

Oreo

Iam64

Keir Starmer has made some good choices at home and internationally. A man of integrity but for reasons I can’t begin to understand, many people didn’t not just dislike him, you’d hear the word hate.

I’m a Gtr Manchester person, a Labour Party member. I supported Keir and very reluctantly for numerous reasons agreed he should stand down. I’ve met Andy Burnham, seen him speak and as a Gtr Manchester person have seen the positive impact he’s had here. Not perfect but I don’t expect perfection.

I don’t expect perfection either, but expected better than what we got with Keir Starmer.It was one mistake after another.
But I don’t get the hate either, think it must be the disappointment a lot of people including Labour members and voters and MP’s felt about him.

Same here. We both agreed that we would give him a chance, and we did.
One thing I noticed in myself was when he was giving a speech.
I found that my brain would wander to the price of eggs in Tesco’s, not good.
We both made excuses for policies we didn’t agree with, but, Mandelson was the last straw.

Primrose53

Maremia

Wonder if it has been discussed on GB News?

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!

I never said they were the same country. Unlike some on here I do not have time to provide reams of links, statistics etc. and often don’t even have time to finish a post but if you feel good constantly having a go at me then you carry on.

Nobody wants reams, just a little thought.

Maremia

Wonder if it has been discussed on GB News?

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!

I never said they were the same country. Unlike some on here I do not have time to provide reams of links, statistics etc. and often don’t even have time to finish a post but if you feel good constantly having a go at me then you carry on.

Wonder if it has been discussed on GB News?

India/Pakistan?
Two different countries, aren't they?

greyfur

Oreo

greyfur

Primrose53

We’ve just sent £153 million of foreign aid to Pakistan.
£153 million! We shouldn’t be sending them anything until they agree to take back the disgusting grooming gang man who has just been released from prison. We are such a soft touch.

Ah yes, somebody else has trotted this out. Must be doing the rounds somewhere.

It’s what most people would think if they took a poll I bet.

If they read The Sun.

No need for that! It’s everywhere - papers, Facebook, YouTube, discussed on chat progs etc.

What kind of person wants this sicko to stay here?

Nobody at all.

To Primrose

Ok - soz!

It was a daily mail article. It has nothing to do with Andy Burnham or attempts to deport this man. I imagine many people will be relieved and delighted when he is deported (hope he is)