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Farage’s furious clash with Times editor stuns figures close to him. This will not end well…

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LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 11:03:48

‘Strong confrontation’ comes at fragile moment for Reform’s relations with rightwing media as coverage turns negative. The exchange, which is said to have included an expletive aimed at Tony Gallagher, was triggered by the Reform UK leader’s outrage that the paper was planning to run a story about his houses, which he said endangered his family.

It is a fragile moment for Reform’s relationship with Britain’s rightwing media, whose coverage of Farage and his byelection gamble has taken a negative turn since questions were raised about his funding and finances. Coverage by the Times and the Sun, part of Rupert Murdoch’s News UK stable, as well as the Daily Telegraph and the Daily Mail, has made for tough reading for Reform in recent days.

The Telegraph has described Farage’s decision to subject himself to a “people versus the establishment” by election in Clacton as a “summer gamble” and “a farce”. Meanwhile, Kemi Badenoch appeared in its pages stating the Conservative party “is for serious people, not a retirement home for failed politicians” – a jibe at Reform’s collection of Tory defectors.

The Mail has run an editorial that read: “How quickly times – and political fortunes – can change. It is only weeks since Reform UK’s rise appeared almost unstoppable. But two by election defeats and concerns over leader Nigel Farage’s financial affairs have significantly altered the landscape.”

In recent days, a damning verdict on Farage’s current predicament was delivered by Trevor Kavanagh, the Sun’s veteran political commentator and a figure close to Murdoch. “We are witnessing the sudden death of a political movement which began as the UK Independence party, morphed into the Brexit party, and now Reform,” he wrote. “Or, to simply name names, Nigel Farage.”

A Times spokesperson said: “We stand by our journalism, and do not accept that the published photograph identified the location of any property or presented a security risk.”

One senior editor said Farage had abandoned attempts to build broad support in favour of appealing to his base, resulting in attacks on the press. “It’s straight out of Trump world,” they said. “Demonise the messenger, rally the base, undermine the MSM.”

Should scepticism continue among the other newspapers on the right, it would put a serious dent in Reform’s grander ambitions of power

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:20:57

Poor old Nige - he is feeling very brittle at the moment. Probably because the right wing press who have previously supported him are becoming decidedly lukewarm recently, since the apparent corruption and money laundering. He had a melt down when being asked about it by sky.

I have read that the only Express has published no criticism of him.

Wheniwasyourage Sat 18-Jul-26 11:22:26

Should scepticism continue among the other newspapers on the right, it would put a serious dent in Reform’s grander ambitions of power

Let's hope so, LemonJam! The right-leaning press (ie most of it in this country) has too much power, IMO, and that probably means too much money, not all owned and spent by people who actually live here. angry

Cossy Sat 18-Jul-26 11:23:55

I’m sorry but all MPs are open, (as it should be), to public scrutiny around anything other than their personal lives.

Whether we agree, or like it, Mr Farage has been show not to always tell the truth.

Like everyone else, he has to face the consequences of both his words and actions.

The facts that right leaning press are now questioning some of his “judgements” simply shows, in my opinion, his “easy ride” from some of the press has come to an end.

If he’s nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear and like others have in the past, he has the option to sue them! Xx

Wyllow3 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:26:48

Speak it loud and speak it out. His whining has gone too far and his power base leaked away daily by this turn in opinions from previously supportive press.

He faces charges and instead of lying low and answering charges with dignity tries a publicity stunt and ends up with memories of Binface, forever.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:35:31

The media has always fallen in and out of love with politicians and others in the public eye.

Being gleeful when it is someone you neither support or approve of is not a good look.

I hope that the same applies when Andy Burnham’s honeymoon period is over, as I predict it will not last very long.

Disclaimer- I am not a Reform supporter

LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 11:36:24

He does increasingly appears to be having melt downs. Not good timing as he's put himself forward to re-election in Clacton and the good people of Clacton no doubt read these newspapers.

His judgement is now is being called into question- continue to rail against the right wing press and have it really turn against him in the same way the LP and AB as its new leader faces every day. Or respect the press right to freedom of speech and show the electorate by words and actions what he is made of rather than divisive ideological sound bites- which until recently the right wing media played along with.....

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:40:28

Why on earth should the public be told about his houses?

We don’t know much at all about property’s other politicians have.

I don’t blame NF for feeling got at.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:41:05

properties
Should check before posting

Wyllow3 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:47:10

Cos he's a "celeb" and the press are nosy and people curious.

Why should he feel more "got at" than any others who have bits of their lives out there? It's easy to check properties for all MP's.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:49:35

But ‘most people’ wouldn’t be interested in ‘doing a check’ re properties of people in the public eye but having it delivered to them on a plate makes it eminently readable.

I just don’t think it’s necessary.

Cossy Sat 18-Jul-26 11:50:35

GrannyGravy13

The media has always fallen in and out of love with politicians and others in the public eye.

Being gleeful when it is someone you neither support or approve of is not a good look.

I hope that the same applies when Andy Burnham’s honeymoon period is over, as I predict it will not last very long.

Disclaimer- I am not a Reform supporter

I don’t think it’s “glee”, I think (for me anyhow), it’s time for Mr Farage to feel what most public figures have been subjected to in the past.

He’s had it quite easy to this point, and I think one of the reasons has been because of his “links” and “courting” of the media. He has such easy access to media given his links and minor shareholdings in GB News, his use of X, and the fact that he owns at least one media outlet.

All PMs and MPs who court publicity, and many who don’t, have been subjected to the closest of scrutiny previously, look at Johnson and Starmer. I’m sure AB’s turn will come and rather more quickly than Mr Farage’s.

It’s hard to feel any empathy for Farage, he’s courted publicity since his days of being an MEP, claiming his entire raison d’etre for doing so was to bring about Brexit. Though it did take rather a long time to do this and a lot of accepted salaries!

LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 11:51:01

GrannyGravy13

The media has always fallen in and out of love with politicians and others in the public eye.

Being gleeful when it is someone you neither support or approve of is not a good look.

I hope that the same applies when Andy Burnham’s honeymoon period is over, as I predict it will not last very long.

Disclaimer- I am not a Reform supporter

GG13- the right wing media is already scrutinising AB as we all know and will continue to do so every day he is PM

There's another post about AB- is the media jumping the gun, currently over 280 posts, including posts from your good self. All even handed.

Farage's furious clash with The Times editor and the press recent coverage of Farage is topical news and now Farage will
need to decide how he will navigate this change and it will be interesting to see how he navigates press scrutiny in the same way it will be interesting to see how AB navigates press scrutiny over the coming months.

That they are both facing acute press scrutiny in tandem- AB after winning the LP leadership contest and Farage whist facing election (of his own choosing) will be fascinating in comparison- well at least to me. One feels it is a witch hunt and the establishment is against him- the other I suspect will respond in a different way.

We will learn a lot about both men as a result.

Cossy Sat 18-Jul-26 11:52:51

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Why on earth should the public be told about his houses?

We don’t know much at all about property’s other politicians have.

I don’t blame NF for feeling got at.

Because, as I understand, and I may be wrong, he has to declare property ownership under the MP rules?

LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 11:53:50

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Why on earth should the public be told about his houses?

We don’t know much at all about property’s other politicians have.

I don’t blame NF for feeling got at.

I think we do! I remember the long posts and discussions about Angela Raynor's purchase of properties in great detail!

AGAA4 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:55:46

Farage portrays himself as a man of the people. The bloke next door. Most people don't own five houses or accept gifts of millions of pounds so people need to know that he is not like them at all. He is a fake and is annoyed that the press are showing him to be.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:55:51

Maybe because she was dodging stamp
duty??

LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 11:56:52

FriedGreenTomatoes2

But ‘most people’ wouldn’t be interested in ‘doing a check’ re properties of people in the public eye but having it delivered to them on a plate makes it eminently readable.

I just don’t think it’s necessary.

Maybe the posts about other politicians are not "necessary'. dIs there a rule that posts need to meet some kind of "necessary threshold"? Not that I'm aware of....

I guess posters post a topic of interest and then it's up to individual posters whther to respond.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 18-Jul-26 11:57:28

I don’t think he is a fake

Just because he is wealthy does not preclude him from seeing what is happening in the UK. And how things could be better.

Cossy Sat 18-Jul-26 11:59:17

Mr Google tell me this:

“UK MPs are required to declare any land or property they own, either fully or partially, that has a value of more than £100,000 or forms part of a property portfolio exceeding that value. They must record these holdings in the Register of Members' Financial Interests.“

Now, and again, I may have been mistaken, or misled, but as I understand it, there appeared to be some “confusion” over how many properties Mr Farage has a financial interest in and how many he declared.

It appears to be a similar “confusions” as to whether or not the £5m “gift” to Farage should, or should not, have been declared.

If Mr Farage hasn’t broken any rules and all is as it should be, then all is well and nothing to fear. He can sue the Times. If not, ….

LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 12:01:37

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Maybe because she was dodging stamp
duty??

Just as Frage is currently under Parliamentary standards investigation as its claimed he failed to declare a £5 million gift plus Cottrell donations etc.

Farage actually said of the press reports on Mayor at the time he dint know how she could come back from this. She did.

Different kettle, different fish- in the same way now it remains to be seen whether Farage will come back from his current situation.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 18-Jul-26 12:01:40

If I was Nigel Farage I would be tempted to walk away from politics and enjoy my life away from media scrutiny.

As it is he is continuing to stand up for his beliefs, whether or not I agree with some or all of them is irrelevant.

The media is doing exactly what it always has done, build someone/something up and then destroy it piece by piece…

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 18-Jul-26 12:02:22

He’s 60 and a grandad now.
I’d walk.

LemonJam Sat 18-Jul-26 12:02:42

Mayor= Raynor

Whitewavemark2 Sat 18-Jul-26 12:04:01

Farage has not been properly scrutinised either politically or regards finance, including his undeclared income, until very recently. Money laundering is a highly serious offence, and banks have reported this more than once to the NCA.

Many questions need answering.