Andy Burnham says wealthy areas must house more migrants after leafy village revolts over 1,250 asylum seekers

"These young men"

They are not all the same please don't lets lump them together - there are genuine asylum seekers amongst them, and why assume all are not ordinary benign human beings.

Cossy, do not agree with much you say, but your post about shooting and gassing people is low, very offensive. I suggest you think before you post. Most of the country are very worried about illegal immigration, that is fact, you are not obviously and are entitled to your view, I take it you have personal experience of living next to one of these centres that house these young men, it's a problem that needs sorting.

LemonJam

Good grief- I had not heard of Andrew Parker, a Reform activist saying this.

I don’t know why, but I recall very vividly when this vile excuse for a human actually said this.

Good grief- I had not heard of Andrew Parker, a Reform activist saying this.

We are not incapable of behaving like this -it’s dangerous to believe we are.

LemonJam

Cossy 19.27. Crikey - that would be cheaper but I have also tried to believe the majority of UK citizens are humane and would not allow that 🤞🤞

🙏🙏🤞🤞

Of course, I didn’t mean it, even for one second, but I do believe that once upon a time it was mention by a certain person from a certain party, the shooting bit anyhow.

“The Incident: A Reform UK campaign activist named Andrew Parker was recorded by an undercover reporter in Clacton-on-Sea.The Comments: Parker suggested that army recruits should be placed on beaches with guns to use arriving migrants as "target practice," stating they should "just shoot them."”

I will state that Farage immediately cut all ties and connections, at least publicly, with this obnoxious individual.

Yes as has been said, if you want to know what msn is capable of look at what man has done

Cossy 19.27. Crikey - that would be cheaper but I have also tried to believe the majority of UK citizens are humane and would not allow that 🤞🤞

I accept anti immigrants do not seem to be bothered about extortionately expensive costs MaizieD - but I wonder what they think about all the other hurdles on this tiny island and what numbers would they would hope to send.....

But Maizie in next to no time it would become clear that all it would be is a money pit. And depending which party was in power a Covid type cash cow

I have a much simpler and cheaper solution, let’s just shoot them all dead as they step off those boats.

Then we will simply gas all those already here.

There you are, problem solved simply and cheaply.

Mmmmm

Doesn’t seem like a place anyone would thrive in.

“Ascension Island is a remote volcanic island in the tropical South Atlantic Ocean.

It sits roughly 960 miles (1,540 km) from the coast of Africa and 1,400 miles (2,300 km) from South America.

It is part of the British Overseas Territory of Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha.Location DetailsOcean: South Atlantic OceanCoordinates: About 8 degrees south of the equator (7°57′S, 14°22′W)

Nearest Neighbors: 800 miles (1,300 km) northwest of Saint Helena and 2,000 miles (3,200 km) north of Tristan da Cunha.”

So let’s just assume, just for one moment, that we take our AS entering the UK, at face value.

Many of these AS (remember, we are assuming that they are all genuine at this point) have made arduous and dangerous journeys from their home countries.

Countries like Syria, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Iran. Probably a combination of travelling in the back of lorries, cars, buses or walking and then cross the open borders across Europe til arriving in France, already bloody exhausted by now I would think, then they wait til a small boat becomes available and on they pop.

A lot of these people, despite popular belief, would have worked in their home country and some may have left families behind as for some the journey to France would just be too arduous.

Then they reach the UK, register for asylum, wait months and months to be processed and then, once accepted, we fly them thousands of miles to a place with only 1,000 residents, no housing and no jobs.

To just make it an even more unsuitable place for anyone,

Marine Reserve: The entire exclusive economic zone surrounding the island is a designated Marine Protected Area rich in marine life, sharks, and pelagic fish.

Mmmm For me, this is an absolute non starter and even more unsuitable than Rwanda.

Would you like to see this as a costed solution in a party manifesto at the next GE FGT?

How many asylum seekers and home office staff do you think the UK could transport that the island could actually accommodate to carry out processing etc in context that the 34 square mile island currently has limited water resource, limited fuel, housing, lacks infrastructure and has no hospital for current under 1.,000 population?

That’s because they haven’t thought it through. They would if it pushed up taxes, which it would. 80 people currently live on Ascension Island, there is nothing there.

They never blinked an eyelid about Rwanda, did they?

LemonJam

Meandrogrog

Tuliptree

Which islands are these I wonder? Another easy solution to a difficult problem that’s so easy no one in UK has ever thought about it

Its not a difficult solution, I believe he mentioned Ascension island.

The Acension island is 4000 miles from the UK - a tiny volcanic island of roughly 34 square miles It has a population under a 1,000 mostly of workers and military support staff with no indigenous population.

This tiny island currently lacks infrastructure, housing, water resources and medical facilities to support any further influx of people above its current under 1,000 population.

Transporting thousands of people and supplies across 4,000 miles to a tiny base is a massive logistical challenge, impossibly expensive and a previous UK government determined it simply was not viable.

There also would be legal hurdles as this tiny island is a British Overseas territory. So it would fall under UK laws, human rights law and ECHR law as apply to the UK. A government would have to strip the entire UK away from such human rights entitlements, UK laws and ECHR laws to avoid any legal challenges from the asylum seekers it transport to this British Oversea island.

Yes I accept you see this as a simple, ie not difficult solution Meadnrogog but that's not the conclusion reached by a previous UK government.

But you're missing the point, LemonJam.

I don't think the antis are bothered about the cost or logistical nightmare so long as those asylum seekers are not here in the UK.

Maybe all this

www.google.com/search?q=could+asylum.serkprrs+be+placed+on+sdvendion+islsnds&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#lfId=ChxjMe

Meandrogrog

Tuliptree

Which islands are these I wonder? Another easy solution to a difficult problem that’s so easy no one in UK has ever thought about it

Its not a difficult solution, I believe he mentioned Ascension island.

The Acension island is 4000 miles from the UK - a tiny volcanic island of roughly 34 square miles It has a population under a 1,000 mostly of workers and military support staff with no indigenous population.

This tiny island currently lacks infrastructure, housing, water resources and medical facilities to support any further influx of people above its current under 1,000 population.

Transporting thousands of people and supplies across 4,000 miles to a tiny base is a massive logistical challenge, impossibly expensive and a previous UK government determined it simply was not viable.

There also would be legal hurdles as this tiny island is a British Overseas territory. So it would fall under UK laws, human rights law and ECHR law as apply to the UK. A government would have to strip the entire UK away from such human rights entitlements, UK laws and ECHR laws to avoid any legal challenges from the asylum seekers it transport to this British Oversea island.

Yes I accept you see this as a simple, ie not difficult solution Meadnrogog but that's not the conclusion reached by a previous UK government.

What could possibly go wrong? 😂😂😂😂😂

Tuliptree

Utterly perfect . Why didn’t the Tories do it years ago 😂
www.google.com/search?q=asvdndion+islsnds&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari&sei=L1h_arf7FsaBhbIPyabCmAM#lfId=ChxjMe

That is what I would like to know! 🤔

Utterly perfect . Why didn’t the Tories do it years ago 😂
www.google.com/search?q=asvdndion+islsnds&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari&sei=L1h_arf7FsaBhbIPyabCmAM#lfId=ChxjMe

And this has been fully costed, legal implications explored, staffing, transport, health and welfare provision, accommodation, yeah right.

“Meandrogrog

Tuliptree
Which islands are these I wonder? Another easy solution to a difficult problem that’s so easy no one in UK has ever thought about it

Its not a difficult solution, I believe he mentioned Ascension island.“

I beg to differ, if it was “not a difficult solution” do you not think that either the Tories or Labour would have done it by now?

Besides which, there’s the little issue of international asylum law stating very succinctly that AS are entitled, by law, to apply for asylum in a country of their choice. If the Ascension Island were the place of choice wouldn’t they all be rocking up there?

Sorry about typos! I think my posts make some kind of sense.

Rushing, dipping in and out between updates on Henry, normal household chores and preparing to get the train this time, for my visit to GOSH tomorrow. X

Tuliptree

Which islands are these I wonder? Another easy solution to a difficult problem that’s so easy no one in UK has ever thought about it

Its not a difficult solution, I believe he mentioned Ascension island.