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Andy Burnham says wealthy areas must house more migrants after leafy village revolts over 1,250 asylum seekers

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Sunshinegirls Tue 11-Aug-26 20:17:02

How wonderful you work hard and buy a nice house in a nice area and Andy Burnham PM wants to put foreign men we know nothing about who come from third world countries in the house next door to you and your family and the final straw is they don't have to pay a penny it's all free for them, no wonder they are rushing to board the Mega Boats bringing in 230 men a time here. Ain't life grand well it is for them, utopia.

Dickens Wed 12-Aug-26 07:45:38

Casdon

I think that anybody who chooses to buy a house adjacent to a base owned by the MOD must be aware of the past uses, and that it may be used by the MOD in future to meet the same, or alternative demand. That’s a risk you take, wherever you choose to live.

Yes, that's true. I guess it always pays to look closely at adjacent buildings and properties.
We bought a house a few doors down from a pub - at the time, a sort of 'village-retreat' with a leafy beer-garden. After Covid lockdowns and dwindling trade, it's now become a pub with "theme" nights attracting crowds from the nearest large town. Some 'themes' are more tolerable than others.
But - we chose to live here, so...

Meandrogrog Wed 12-Aug-26 07:44:44

Allsorts

If they come here legally, learn the language and work. Welcome. Otherwise no. They see this country as easy
thats why they do not stop in first free country. Send them back.

👏👏👏👏👏👏

Allsorts Wed 12-Aug-26 07:43:03

If they come here legally, learn the language and work. Welcome. Otherwise no. They see this country as easy
thats why they do not stop in first free country. Send them back.

Casdon Wed 12-Aug-26 07:30:55

I think that anybody who chooses to buy a house adjacent to a base owned by the MOD must be aware of the past uses, and that it may be used by the MOD in future to meet the same, or alternative demand. That’s a risk you take, wherever you choose to live.

Dickens Wed 12-Aug-26 07:25:08

I believe the issue is this - the largely male Asylum Seekers, whether housed near a leafy-village or run-down estate, are an unknown quantity.

In the same way that 'not-all-men' are sexual predators, many, if not most, women are wary - in certain situations and environments - of 'all-men', because they don't know whether the specific man is or isn't a danger to them. The principle is the same - self-preservation.

The same principle I assume as that which drives many asylum seekers to seek refuge - and it is not illegal to enter a country via unorthodox means if you are fleeing persecution, war, etc. Until such migrants are processed, no-one knows whether they are genuine refugees fleeing for their lives, economic migrants, or 'chancers' (sorry, can't think of a better description as I need some coffee).

luluaugust Wed 12-Aug-26 07:21:32

It would be fascinating to know what the asylum seekers really think when they find themselves in a small village or town with few facilities. I guess most think they will be in London
Here in Kent we have some trying to smuggle themselves back to France. Once on our relatively small island you are trapped and I guess they never think of that.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 12-Aug-26 06:54:50

I do not know a lot about this latest asylum seeker situation.

I can see that moving 1,250 mostly young men into a small rural village population of under 400, with only a church and village hall is bound to cause worries and unrest within the community.

I have also had a lot of contact with our local hospitals and can see the diversity amongst the staff. Our NHS actively recruits staff from abroad and it is evident to anyone who has to use any branch of our health care service.

LemonJam Wed 12-Aug-26 06:53:41

The only way for an asylum seeker to make an asylum application is to be physically present in the UK and present themselves to border control for processing. An asylum application cannot be made from any other country at all.

Thus people arriving in small boats and presenting themselves to border control as directed are correctly adhering to the only asylum application process the UK has in place

Tuliptree Wed 12-Aug-26 06:27:42

The problem is that for asylum seekers/refugees there is no approved manner now is there? That’s part of the debate isn’t it as to if there were, would it stop people coming on the boats ? I’d assume not

Aveline Wed 12-Aug-26 06:17:19

Fully agree nanna8. Those people who arrived in the approved manner are the nurses, doctors and care workers unlike the rabble who pack on the boats.

nanna8 Wed 12-Aug-26 01:09:23

I feel sorry for those migrants and refugees who have followed correct procedure,endured long waits and sometimes are refused. What must they be thinking when people just fetch up with no papers and no checks ? Think of them before rushing to house the queue jumpers. Also, what about the people who are desperately poor and sleep in shop doorways and would just grab at the chance of a roof over their heads and a bit of pocket money ? Priorities.

Wyllow3 Wed 12-Aug-26 00:10:09

Well, you need organisers from outside, don't you, in reality, just as schemes in towns as per above have volunteers, but have more to draw from.
Tho in large groups there are sometimes natural organisers but they need to connect with someone who sorts out tasks.

Nightsky2 Wed 12-Aug-26 00:00:08

Tuliptree

Well surely with the resources of the church and the village hall, a whole raft of activities could be planned.

What activities would you suggest for a lot of bored young men in a small village of roughly 370 residents.


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Wyllow3 Tue 11-Aug-26 23:18:26

Activites with purpose need to be arranged - is that really beyond the bounds of possibility?

since its happening already.

"Across the UK, asylum claimants and refugees frequently team up with local charities and councils to organise and join community litter-picking initiatives. These collaborative efforts foster social integration, build community pride, and allow asylum seekers to give back to their temporary host neighbourhoods." (The search then revealed 4 towns as examples

Here's another, from last year:

www.facebook.com/groups/uklpg/posts/4152686885001
305/

another one from Hull
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/people-pull-together-hull-litter-10360263

and my local city but don't want to reveal my location.

Doodledog Tue 11-Aug-26 22:45:58

Visgir1

Apparently, Piddington has no shops, cafés or pubs. Social life centres on the church and the village hall, leaving residents fearing that asylum seekers are going to be rather bored.

Oh, so it's concern for their recreation that's behind the 'revolt', but otherwise it's 'wonderful'? Maybe they could arrange beetle drives or community singing evenings in the church hall for the newcomers. It needn't be hard to make them feel welcome.

Assuming that there are at least a few grains of truth in all of this, I think a disused barracks is as good a place as any to house asylum seekers until they are processed, but also that the processing should happen quickly, and the people dispersed to other areas for long-term stay if they qualify.

My hometown used to be a small market town with historical buildings and a distinctive 'vibe'. Families with generations of children using local schools and so on. Over the past 15 years or so there have been numerous housing estates built on the outskirts, and larger old buildings converted to (usually retirement) flats. That's a different issue, as on the whole the houses are of the '4-5 bed - each with a bathroom' type, so the 'incomers' are predominantly middle class, and spend money in the town, but all the same the nature of the town has changed, and a lot of older residents don't like it. A lot of younger ones are unhappy, too, as their children are being pushed out of schools that great-grandparents attended, to make way for newcomers from outside of the area, and the preponderance of retirement flats has meant the number of older people's shops such as Seasalt/Crew Company and the like have replaced those for younger people and those on lower incomes. Local accents are heard less often than other ones, and the nature of the town is different as a result. A settled community, with all the pros and cons that go with that, is now a generic place with a lovely old centre and boxy estates on the periphery. It has lost the distinctiveness that attracted the newcomers in the first place.

People don't like change when it happens fast.

I see no reason why having a 'nice' house in a 'nice' area should mean that you have a right to be protected from the sort of changes that can just happen to those with a 'what's the word to use here?' house in a 'less nice' area; but I do understand people feeling upset by a sudden change in their environment, whether it's asylum seekers or young families taking school/surgery places and clogging up car parks with SUVs so they can live in a 'desirable' town.

It's far better to aim for change to happen more slowly. We need more homes for young people and growing families, just as we need retirement flats and places for refugees to be housed. Putting over 1000 of any of those people (older, young, families, refugees) in a small area is going to be stressful for the residents if it all happens at once and is a long-term arrangement, but that would be true in a council estate as much as in a 'nice' area, in my opinion.

MartavTaurus Tue 11-Aug-26 22:28:02

Whilst I agree that housing asylum seekers in deprived areas only adds to the difficulties in that area, housing them in more affluent areas is also inviting trouble. Remember Epping - which is very leafy and where the average house price is £650,000? There were protests and demonstrations for several months, and tension within the town certainly escalated. It wasn't at all pleasant, but I think the police did well enough to contain it.

Tuliptree Tue 11-Aug-26 22:18:30

Well surely with the resources of the church and the village hall, a whole raft of activities could be planned.

Visgir1 Tue 11-Aug-26 22:12:46

Apparently, Piddington has no shops, cafés or pubs. Social life centres on the church and the village hall, leaving residents fearing that asylum seekers are going to be rather bored.

NotSpaghetti Tue 11-Aug-26 22:04:18

"You work hard and rent a pokey flat in a working class poor area wuth no amenities etc etc etc"

Honestly!!!

Gran22boys Tue 11-Aug-26 21:58:33

Whatever angle the posts about migrants come from I always ask, and will ask again, at what point do we say enough is enough? Quite how many people can this small country absorb?

Fallingstar Tue 11-Aug-26 21:54:53

I think it would be much better if asylum seekers are not just housed in deprived areas where resentments are already pretty high due to a lack of opportunities/jobs, neither of which are linked to asylum seekers but failed government policies over many decades.
These areas should not bear the brunt of it, nor should asylum seekers.
Housing them in less deprived areas will put less of a burden on an already struggling infrastructure and integration will probably be easier without facing the growing resentments of a hostile community looking for a scapegoat.

Fallingstar Tue 11-Aug-26 21:46:02

Cossy

Btw. In my darling new grandson’s neonatal Unit, there’s barely one white face.

Consultants are black, his named nurses are Asian, midwives are also black!

Some of them probably originate from third world countries, their parents might even have been Asylum Seekers!

Thank bloody goodness they are here, every hour they care for our darling Henry is a gift to us and his parents! 💙

Well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Cossy Tue 11-Aug-26 21:16:14

Btw. In my darling new grandson’s neonatal Unit, there’s barely one white face.

Consultants are black, his named nurses are Asian, midwives are also black!

Some of them probably originate from third world countries, their parents might even have been Asylum Seekers!

Thank bloody goodness they are here, every hour they care for our darling Henry is a gift to us and his parents! 💙

JenniRen Tue 11-Aug-26 21:14:55

Jaxjacky

Piddington, sorry…

Xpost, sorry.

JenniRen Tue 11-Aug-26 21:14:32

Jaxjacky

It’s a mothballed MOD barracks, Paddington residents have voted to secede themselves from the UK in protest.

It's Piddington, Oxfordshire, population 400.

Paddington, Westminster could probably absorb 1,250 extra people with a population of 200,000.