Wrong side driving social media stunt

I have seen some suggestions of making driving down the wrong side a separate serious offense, I assume it would currently come under dangerous driving offense. The chance of a mass casualty event in doing this is very high.

Bukkie

Sarnia- I can't believe what I am reading, is this horrific statement really true? What senseless behaviour. My heart goes out to all the victims.

My heart goes out to the policemen’s family. Nobody else.
It was another accident waiting to happen.
This group of lowlife have been putting up these videos for some time.

Yes, this - especially as I have two serving police officers in the family.

Same here ViceVersa, son and daughter-in-law. Parents of our 14m old grandson.

butterandjam

Bukkie

Sarnia- I can't believe what I am reading, is this horrific statement really true? What senseless behaviour. My heart goes out to all the victims.

Mine goes out to the innocent victims ; the seriously injured .The two dead police officers.

I have absolutely no pity, empathy or regret over the deaths of the little bastards who killed them.

Yes, this - especially as I have two serving police officers in the family.

Bukkie

Sarnia- I can't believe what I am reading, is this horrific statement really true? What senseless behaviour. My heart goes out to all the victims.

Mine goes out to the innocent victims ; the seriously injured .The two dead police officers.

I have absolutely no pity, empathy or regret over the deaths of the little bastards who killed them.

If not of.

Of they haven't previous cautions/ convictions I would be amazed.

These two recent "wrong way" incidents are tragic on so many levels.

Unsurprisingly, TikTok have remained silent so far about why they are not moderating their site. With Meta currently facing legal action in the USA, you would think they would get their house in order.

Also, many of us will have parented teenage boys who are now responsible adults. We know they need boundaries in their formative years to keep them safe and that they will kick against them but we keep reinforcing them. Those who have not been given boundaries have no understanding of how to behave and what the risks are.

I think we should bring back public information films but have them on sites such as TikTok where they can reach the younger generation.

If these feral kids (generally with no driving licence) are happy to steal cars, terrorise people in their own homes, drive when they can barely see above the steering and generally cause havoc and distress in the wider community, then I think it highly unlikely they're going to care much about any changes in the law regarding driving restrictions.

They're criminals so have no regard for the law.

Fallingstar

I get what you are saying ViceVersa but is the good info available on TikTok worth the bad?
Imho young people are being groomed to behave dangerously and endanger lives, including their own. Indeed it was said that young people were being encouraged to start fires during the heatwaves. It can’t go on. As has been said young people are so impressionable.
And there are other platforms offering good info they could access.

I understand that, but as I said, if you ban one site, another will just pop up in its place. And that's not defending TikTok, by the way - but it's very easy to call for a ban without looking at the deeper root causes of this.

I loathe tik tok by the way but am generally more worried about the consequences of banning social media than tik tok itself.

If you are worried about choking during sex the first thing to do would be to ban porn not tik tok.
I think blaming social media is probably too easy.

I get what you are saying ViceVersa but is the good info available on TikTok worth the bad?
Imho young people are being groomed to behave dangerously and endanger lives, including their own. Indeed it was said that young people were being encouraged to start fires during the heatwaves. It can’t go on. As has been said young people are so impressionable.
And there are other platforms offering good info they could access.

Fallingstar

Have heard of TikTok many times and always with regard to dangerous behaviours in young people. I believe when young people suddenly mobbed towns and cities, raiding shops and causing havoc, that this also was down to TikTok.
So why is this site allowed to exist??
It is a danger to society.

I couldn't agree more and you are right about the high street mobs. All TikTok encouraged. They made the startling statement a while ago that choking during sex was the new norm! I had a quiet word in my teenage grandson's ear about that one.
TikTok appear to be governed by mindless and dangerous idiots and need to be totally banned from impressionable youngsters with immediate effect.

Young men do naturally seem to crave danger so I wonder if Society's modern inclination to keep children "risk free" all the time is making this worse. Perhaps we should be encouraging more "dangerous" activities but under controlled conditions. My DS's reckless tendencies were dispelled by 5 years in the armed forces .

Grannybags,I never know what goes on in the minds of immature young lads, brought up 2 and have grandsons,they just aren't responsible yet ,they are looking for approval from their peers I expect, its part of growing up, stricter parenting?,knowing where your kids get too? Hard to do as they are very resourceful and you just have to do your best, so tragic for all the families

I meant to add my thoughts prayers and condolences to the Police Officers killed and prayers for the innocent family in Ireland who were looking forward to a wedding here in the UK.

So very sad.

The those killed in Ireland were, I believe, fourteen and younger.And with so many young people living with, and off, their parents well in to their thirties, and being classed as children until the age of eighteen it seems an appropriate description.

These are stolen cars, the young men involved probably don’t even have a license.
In Ireland and here the boys were linked with the traveller community,travellers often drive from a very early age.
An 11 year old boy from the traveller community was caught driving a BMW X5 towing a stolen caravan on the M1!

Fallingstar

Have heard of TikTok many times and always with regard to dangerous behaviours in young people. I believe when young people suddenly mobbed towns and cities, raiding shops and causing havoc, that this also was down to TikTok.
So why is this site allowed to exist??
It is a danger to society.

That is true, but there are also a lot of good things on it too. There are people using TikTok for all sorts of things, many of which are useful and informative. And if you ban it, another similar site will just pop up in its place.

My thoughts are with the loved ones of those who were needlessly killed. 💐

Have heard of TikTok many times and always with regard to dangerous behaviours in young people. I believe when young people suddenly mobbed towns and cities, raiding shops and causing havoc, that this also was down to TikTok.
So why is this site allowed to exist??
It is a danger to society.

This dangerous driving seems to be increasing. In recent months, We have had more than one fatal car crash in our town caused by deliberate speeding and dangerous driving,

My dad was in the Police service for over 30 years. I worked alongside officers many times. I was shaken, felt tearful listening to the Chief Constable of the force who lost two officers in this senseless crash yesterday.

Should Insurance companies supported by legislation prevent young drivers from carrying young passengers. Say under 25 years? Whilst brains don’t fully develop to 25, ask my ten year old grandson, he’d say the tick tick challenge behaviour is wrong. We can’t excuse this dangerous idiotic behaviour because young men always take risks. Do we need risky hobbies like rock climbing supervised by the army? I know expensive ….

I agree Calendargirl.
eazybee aged in their late teens/early 20’s hardly children.
I was talking to MrJ about this rash behaviour yesterday, social media has a lot to answer for.

We know, now, that the part of the brain that assesses risk doesn't develop until the early twenties, so we understand why young people, especially males, indulge in risk taking behaviours.
This has been recorded throughout history.
Sadly, I have no suggestions as to how we might stop this. Any impositions would, likely, be ignored by those at whom these might be targeted.