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Mark Carney is becoming the new leader of the western world

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Aug-26 16:50:52

I have been watching and listening to Mark Carney over a number of months, and have come to admire his political instincts and strength he has shown when dealing with Trump.

Whilst the rest of the world decided that flattering Trump was the best way forward, Carney understood that this can never work in the long run, and from the very first Carney made it clear that he will never dance to Trump’s tune.

It has become clear that America can no longer be depended on for either trade or as a defence partner, and Carney, as a result has focused on negotiating trade agreement with a number of countries, and is just embarking on a massive trade agreement with the EU.

Carney’s political instincts are showing real results, and I envy Canada their leader.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 26-Aug-26 16:40:23

Janet1946

I live in Canada and we are very proud of Mark Carney, he has a gentle, but firm way of dealing with Mr Trump. Canada holds the power in the trade talks because of him.

I think you should be. He is intelligently fighting for your/his country.

Wheniwasyourage Wed 26-Aug-26 16:39:13

Another admirer of Carney here. Good luck to him, and best wishes to the Canadian GNers - how nice that there are quite a few of you. Please keep us up to date with what's going on there.

fancythat Wed 26-Aug-26 16:36:53

, there will be economic short-term pain for Canada

Most Canadians can weather this?

I dont have a whole heap of knowledge about the finances of the average Canadian.

suelld Wed 26-Aug-26 16:33:43

Grandmabatty

Trump is a bully and Carney has his mark from the start. You stand up to bullies. Good for him

Oh do so agree!

Iamthewalrus Wed 26-Aug-26 15:56:13

As a Canadian, I appreciate all the support for Carney on this forum. He is such a treasure and came to us at just the right time. Cool, collected, polite but firm. We think that going forward he should speak solely in French to Trump. As far as poking the bear, someone has to and considering we have the most to lose we are not afraid of the Thing south of the border.
Our sovereignty depends on our push back.

AGAA4 Wed 26-Aug-26 15:48:08

As Carney is one of the few who will stand up to Trump I will be on his side.

Cossy Wed 26-Aug-26 15:45:19

Fallingstar

I agree with all the above and do hope that Burnham does business with Carney as well as getting closer to the EU in order to protect British interests.
The US has become unreliable and dangerous so let’s just forget the special relationship, Trump certainly has.

I entirely agree, well put!

Cossy Wed 26-Aug-26 15:44:22

GrannaKaye

I am so proud to have Carney as our leader...a real grown up in the room for a change compared to what we had in the past and what we have in the leader of the opposition. Trump's retaliation will come, I have no doubt, and yes, there will be economic short-term pain for Canada but I believe Carney's vision and resolve will result in long term gain mainly through connection with other middle powers and much much greater distance from the US. I hope enough of those opposed to Trump in the US will gather for the mid-terms and disrupt the state of the union in the US.

👍👍 👏👏👏

Cossy Wed 26-Aug-26 15:43:20

I have an enormous amount of respect for Mark Carney too.

Strangely though this isn’t necessarily shared by all his fellow countrymen.

We recently had a visit to the UK from my Canadian cousin, living in Ottawa, she came en route, with DH and two sons, to Greece, where her in-laws live as her husband is Greek-Canadian.

We spoke briefly about Mr Carney and she was less than complimentary, however I couldn’t really discover if that’s due to him being the wrong political persuasion or just the normal stuff that people say about their leaders, after all no one is perfect. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

I still admire him though!

Smileless2012 Wed 26-Aug-26 15:38:28

A toddler could out tough Trump. Where has Trump's so called toughness got him and America?

Susieq62 Wed 26-Aug-26 15:31:54

Trump is beginning to make USA very isolated ! Carney has the measure of him and speaks common sense , something Trump does not understand. I am team Carney all the way and I hope other world leaders get on board with him !
In my view , for what it is worth, Trump is frightened of Russia, China and North Korea.

Frenchgalinspain Wed 26-Aug-26 14:47:34

Whitewavemark2

I have been watching and listening to Mark Carney over a number of months, and have come to admire his political instincts and strength he has shown when dealing with Trump.

Whilst the rest of the world decided that flattering Trump was the best way forward, Carney understood that this can never work in the long run, and from the very first Carney made it clear that he will never dance to Trump’s tune.

It has become clear that America can no longer be depended on for either trade or as a defence partner, and Carney, as a result has focused on negotiating trade agreement with a number of countries, and is just embarking on a massive trade agreement with the EU.

Carney’s political instincts are showing real results, and I envy Canada their leader.

Agree 100% ..

He is quite an amazingly awesome speaker and politian.

GrannaKaye Wed 26-Aug-26 14:39:22

I am so proud to have Carney as our leader...a real grown up in the room for a change compared to what we had in the past and what we have in the leader of the opposition. Trump's retaliation will come, I have no doubt, and yes, there will be economic short-term pain for Canada but I believe Carney's vision and resolve will result in long term gain mainly through connection with other middle powers and much much greater distance from the US. I hope enough of those opposed to Trump in the US will gather for the mid-terms and disrupt the state of the union in the US.

AGAA4 Wed 26-Aug-26 14:13:13

Carney is definitely the better man. Vance has insulted Carney causing a breakdown in tariff talks.
Vance said " Carney puffs up his chest and tries to out tough Trump"
Easy done I believe as Trump is weak and peevish. He is the typical playground type bully but a coward at heart.

Aldom Wed 26-Aug-26 14:09:13

Mark Carney has my respect.

Grannybags Wed 26-Aug-26 13:47:35

I always felt we were in safe hands when he was at the Bank of England

Janet1946 Wed 26-Aug-26 13:41:39

I live in Canada and we are very proud of Mark Carney, he has a gentle, but firm way of dealing with Mr Trump. Canada holds the power in the trade talks because of him.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 26-Aug-26 13:26:43

You may be interested to watch Richard J Murphy's latest podcadcast. It's title is "Is Donald Trump At War With Canada" which leads him to thd question " do we have a duty to defend Canada." It's an interesting view.

DaisyAnneReturns Wed 26-Aug-26 09:45:04

I admire Carney's stance but it's too simplistic to believe all countries could act in the same way. Over time, with or without Trump, I could imagine America finding they have lost their place as the "leaders of the free world".

I don't see this as a bad thing for average Americans, but, in my view, the American understanding of the rest of the world needs to change or they may become isolated. Having said that, our leaving the EU seems part of a pattern of isolation so perhaps that's the way the world is moving. I hope it isn't.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Aug-26 08:46:44

The rest of the world should take note and follow Canada. It is time we sought an alternative to what America is offering .

petra Wed 26-Aug-26 08:38:45

Listening to an ex liberal party minister who explained the reason for the collapse of the talks was the demand that all future trade negotiations that Canada engage in goes through Trump.

greyfur16 Wed 26-Aug-26 08:13:55

Perhaps Team Trump will tell us all what's good about the man.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Aug-26 08:12:35

There appears quite a lot of difference between the two sides in the trade agreement.

One was the USA’s insistence that Canada drop the French language on goods labels!!

What a cheek! Who on earth are they to interfere into another country’s culture?

A piqued Trump then announced that Lake Ontario will be known as Lake America

Carney walked away and an unprecedented 76% of Canadians backed his decision.

Politically Carney has strengthened his position.

The world is watching, and Trumps stupidity is confirmed.

MayBee70 Wed 26-Aug-26 03:02:53

Pity that people didn’t listen to Carneys advice to not leave the EU when he was head of the Bank of England…

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Aug-26 20:01:41

Tworedroses

Whitewavemark2

I liked that Mark Carney described that all Trumps agreements, or decisions as being written in pencil.

He could not be more correct.

In your opinion.

Try making 2 lists, one listing decisions and agreements that remain standing

And the other that have failed.

I give you one guess as to which will be longer.