Masked protesters block Port of Dover

Whitewavemark2

Asylum seekers immigration down by 40% in one year to this summer.

What is this moral panic going on when everything is heading in the right direction.

Good that’s it’s down, let’s hope it stays that way.

The latest arrival in Portsmouth was from a new un-policed launch site. A much longer and dangerous route.

I do not want to see lives lost in the channel, would much rather cooperation between France and U.K. that enables asylum seekers to apply in France.

I abhor that criminal gangs of people traffickers are getting rich on others misery.

I think those posters who live in lovely parts of the country where life goes on as normal and they don’t see any of this stuff will never understand what the rest of society who live with it feel.

Still….we do need all the barber shops, nail bars and vape shops and the handy little convenience stores where you can buy dodgy cheap cigarettes and drugs from under the counter! Not.
Almost all owned and run by former asylum seekers according to the government backed raids on them.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of the left’s claims and the right’s concerns.

Yes there will be a percentage of asylum seekers who have fled for their lives. There is also a growing percentage of economic migrants playing the system, dodging the law of their country and paying the traffickers huge amounts of €€€€

Asylum seekers immigration down by 40% in one year to this summer.

What is this moral panic going on when everything is heading in the right direction.

The young men who arrive here are hoping to work and send money to their families, I find it incredibly sad to see the stereotyping that is being promoted by the far right. Apparently the leader of Patriotic Platform has convictions for GBH and an attempted kidnapping in a drugs related event. Many of the members of these far right groups have convictions, who is shouting about that? He claims to have found "God" and is a Christian. Well, so did members of the Ku Klux Klan. We don't need masked vigilantes on our streets, let's leave policing to the police.

GrannyGravy13

Aveline yes 👍

The front page of The Times is casting doubt on the validity of asylum claims. Many are identical, even down to over 100 Kurds saying on their application that they are under a death sentence due to having an affair with a certain high profile female.

Source - ITV Breakfast News

I read that, Iraqi Kurds claiming they had an affair with the daughter of a bigwig, groups of Pakistanis claiming asylum for being dissidents ( all giving the same background stuff) and groups of Bangladeshi men claiming to be gay falsely.
It would be funny if these people with false stories were sent on their way but according to the HO whistleblower they often are granted asylum due to the claims, appeals and ineffectiveness of the HO generally.He reckons about 1% may be genuine asylum seekers.

I’m aware that at Tribunals, it’s a regular practice for asylum seekers to claim they are gay and converted to Christianity. Their claim for asylum is based on their claim that if returned to their country of origin, their life will be taken.

Aveline yes 👍

The front page of The Times is casting doubt on the validity of asylum claims. Many are identical, even down to over 100 Kurds saying on their application that they are under a death sentence due to having an affair with a certain high profile female.

Source - ITV Breakfast News

Ah the old doctors and engineers thing. It's getting a bit tired now.

Just look at who exactly is arriving? Fit young men. Of course people are uncomfortable about this. Think how much each one individually is costing in cash and accomodation. Plainly they are not all doctors and useful engineers. They frankly scare women and children in areas where they hang about.

The number of people arriving by small boat has decreased by over 50% this year. I'll clap to celebrate that fewer people are being trafficked and put in danger not because thugs are on our streets in balaclavas.

Chocolatelovinggran

MT62. I, too have read on social media about how the locals " clapped and cheered". I live in East Kent and understand differently.

Why do people think clapping and cheering thugs is the way forward?

I think people have been driven to these extremes. For years there have been rumblings of anxiety about the numbers of illegal immigrants entering the country but these have been fobbed off by the people who should be listening.
The intelligentsia sneer at the opinions of what they snobbishly like to label as prejudiced and ill educated (and whose fault is that) but fail to take into account that an awful lot of people are concerned, rabble or not.
In truth, how else can people register their disquiet when the people who could do something about it just won't.
The Rwanda scheme was there waiting but was chucked out for political reasons. And before everyone weighs in, look how it put people off coming for the day or so it was in force. It would be a safe place to process and accept entrants legally, and return those who aren't. (And before everyone weighs in, as someone who has spent time there, it is every bit as safe as here, and with very good infrastructure.)

petra

OldFrill

Himdowntheroad

So amusing that many of the men appeared to be wearing a burkha, part of the clothing that many of them are so scared of.

Where do you read this misinformation?

They don’t, they make it up.
If the comment was so ridiculous it would be funny.
Assuming that Himdowntheroad knows what a burka is, can you imagine a protester running down the road in the dark not being able to see where they are going 🤦🏼‍♀️

I know, what I wanted to say would have got my comment deleted 😏

OldFrill

Himdowntheroad

So amusing that many of the men appeared to be wearing a burkha, part of the clothing that many of them are so scared of.

Where do you read this misinformation?

They don’t, they make it up.
If the comment was so ridiculous it would be funny.
Assuming that Himdowntheroad knows what a burka is, can you imagine a protester running down the road in the dark not being able to see where they are going 🤦🏼‍♀️

MT62. I, too have read on social media about how the locals " clapped and cheered". I live in East Kent and understand differently.

SM was alive yesterday evening with reports that Danny Tommo had called for protesters, "Patriots" as he calls them, to demonstrate in Portsmouth after two RNLI boats landed around 140 immigrants, coaches were ready to transport them to Dover.

Reports were that riot police were in attendance.

MSN has picked it up this morning.

stick the flags everywhere

Do you mean Operation Raise the Colours?

Reclaiming our heritage and all that?

Himdowntheroad

So amusing that many of the men appeared to be wearing a burkha, part of the clothing that many of them are so scared of.

Where do you read this misinformation?

So amusing that many of the men appeared to be wearing a burkha, part of the clothing that many of them are so scared of.

If large groups of men can be mobilised in this way going under the radar and undetected by the police what else can they be mobilised to do?

I don’t. I think it will be like the stick the flags everywhere fad. It won’t make any difference to the boats arriving, but some will commit violent acts in protest and will be arrested, in the meantime.

Yes they were at Portsmouth last night, it will I think be a regular occurrence from now on.

I think there was a similar incident in Portsmouth last night when one of those larger boats made the crossing. This time the protestors aren't in black with face coverings.

I've no time now to check because I'm helping with first day back-to-school runs, but that crossing isn't the usual short route, by many miles, is it? It must have taken all day.