What would an ideal far right country look right to those who would vote Reform?

Oreo

Cossy

Because Oreo one might assume that if someone has a particular party that they are supporting that they might also know more about how their policies might work in practice. ?

Are you actually serious?
I’m a Labour voter but don’t know, alongside very many other voters how their policies will work out in practice.

Blimey

Luckygirl3

I am once again in A&E with my heart problems and have been here overnight. I am on a trolley in a corridor. About 70%+ of the staff are not white British. They have all been unfailingly polite and considerate in spite of the pressure they are under.

How does this play out in Farage World?

Oh get well soon luckygirl3 hope your stay isn’t too long.

Luckygirl3

I am once again in A&E with my heart problems and have been here overnight. I am on a trolley in a corridor. About 70%+ of the staff are not white British. They have all been unfailingly polite and considerate in spite of the pressure they are under.

How does this play out in Farage World?

Hope you get treated and are on your way home soon.

I don’t think anybody has a problem with any hospital staff who are here legally. This has been the case for decades. No problem at all.

I don’t think anybody has a problem with any hospital staff who are here legally. This has been the case for decades. No problem at all.

I am unconvinced that Farage shares this view.

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Cossy

Because Oreo one might assume that if someone has a particular party that they are supporting that they might also know more about how their policies might work in practice. ?

Are you actually serious?
I’m a Labour voter but don’t know, alongside very many other voters how their policies will work out in practice.

Blimey

Like you, Wwmk2, I am completely gobsmacked by this admission.

I have to admire its bravery, though.

It’s an interesting question. If voters make their choices with absolutely no idea of what the policies put out by their chosen party will work what actually does influence their choice?

I think maybe the appeal is to go back to a world and a country that never existed in the first place.

Far right or far left are no different to 90%+ of the population they are authoritarian, the population is expected to follow orders. Freedom only exists for those that approve of the government and work within the rules China is a good example

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Cossy

Because Oreo one might assume that if someone has a particular party that they are supporting that they might also know more about how their policies might work in practice. ?

Are you actually serious?
I’m a Labour voter but don’t know, alongside very many other voters how their policies will work out in practice.

Blimey

Please don’t pretend you know exactly how policies put forward this year by AB will work out in practice!
Because you don’t and neither does anyone else.

That’s to anyone else who fancies themselves as GN’s alternative Cabinet who pontificate as experts on all things political.
Has it escaped their notice that Starmer and Reeves put out all kinds of policies which sounded great in theory and bombed in practice.
The fact is we can all admire or denigrate manifestos and policies but until they’re put into practice can’t fully comprehend the consequences.Which is why Starmer did so many U turns.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Cossy

Because Oreo one might assume that if someone has a particular party that they are supporting that they might also know more about how their policies might work in practice. ?

Are you actually serious?
I’m a Labour voter but don’t know, alongside very many other voters how their policies will work out in practice.

Blimey

Please don’t pretend you know exactly how policies put forward this year by AB will work out in practice!
Because you don’t and neither does anyone else.

Well, I know just how the economic policy line being declared by Burnham and Healy will work out. Because we have been living with the very same policy for nearly 50 years and its very bad consequences.

greyfur16

I think maybe the appeal is to go back to a world and a country that never existed in the first place.

Well the U.K. has definitely changed in my lifetime.

I lived in Central London from birth to 13, my road has a totally different demographic as is the road of one set of my grandparents.

Some for the good, some not so. It is not a case of rose tinted glasses The shops and market cater for a different demographic.

Oreo

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

Cossy

Because Oreo one might assume that if someone has a particular party that they are supporting that they might also know more about how their policies might work in practice. ?

Are you actually serious?
I’m a Labour voter but don’t know, alongside very many other voters how their policies will work out in practice.

Blimey

Please don’t pretend you know exactly how policies put forward this year by AB will work out in practice!
Because you don’t and neither does anyone else.

That’s a very bold statement.

It dismisses the teaching of history, economics, and and politics amongst others in one. 🙄

I doubt many voters are fully informed of any Party policies and I believe most voters vote on leaders' perceived personalities and media propaganda. Not good.

MaizieD asks how voters make their choice, well, it may come as a shock but the majority don’t have the time or energy in their lives to pore over the small print of policies and ponder the possible consequences of them.
They vote as their parents and close family always voted, they vote as to what general ‘ethos’ they align with, they vote for the Party that promises to deal with the things that matter to them.
Since we on here have been round the block a bit, we know that all political Parties once in power make many mistakes and that policies which sounded great great on paper are entirely wrong once put into practice.

GrannyGravy13

greyfur16

I think maybe the appeal is to go back to a world and a country that never existed in the first place.

Well the U.K. has definitely changed in my lifetime.

I lived in Central London from birth to 13, my road has a totally different demographic as is the road of one set of my grandparents.

Some for the good, some not so. It is not a case of rose tinted glasses The shops and market cater for a different demographic.

A lot has changed and much of it not for good. We can't go back though.

You’re right greyfur16 we can’t put the genie back in the bottle but we can crack down on criminal High St practices and deport many more who think they can claim asylum here for economic reasons only and deport all those who have been accepted here and then act in disgusting and criminal activities.
We can’t just give in and sink under the weight of it all.

Oreo totally agree 👍

You can play whataboutery but there has to be policy in the first place, which, for most key areas, Reform simply doesn't have. Almost their entire focus is on cosplaying over migration and muddle-headed thinking over what it is to be British. For a small party, they are embroiled in massive internal and external controversy.

Reform simply cannot attract the calibre of people necessary to run government. We have evidence of that from the shambles we see happening in local government. 74 councillors have either gone or defected since May 2026 and many more in the year preceding that

www.markpack.org.uk/176783/how-many-councillors-has-reform-uk-lost-since-the-may-2026-elections/

According to Full Fact, of 94 key pledges in the 2024 Labour manifesto, 23 have already been achieved, 18 are on track, 21 are in progress. The remainder are a mix of off-track, wait and see, disputed or not kept - 6 of those.

I think 62 positives is a pretty good record for two years in when one takes into account the turbulent geopolitical landscape and the internal government changes that have taken place.

The Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards currently has open investigations on five MPs. Two of those are Reform and one ex Reform. The matters relating to the investigations of Farage and Tice have received a lot of press coverage so we know what those are about. The third is James McMurdock who wants to return to the party. In March that was said to be under consideration but after earlier controversies over a custodial jail sentence for violence, a fabricated CV, bounce back loans on dormant companies and now under investigation for racist social media posts, even Reform seem to find him unpalatable. Only this week he had to be reprimanded in the Commons for asking a question and then walking out before the Minister had had a chance to answer.

The chart is of the current cabinet and their departments. Reform would need to have policies for all of those.

Very simply, for a party which considers itself ready for a snap election, what are those policies?

Of course many millions of voters know little about politics but they know what the want or don’t want and can usefully describe what their U.K. should look like.

However the question was asked on the N&P thread, where I assume those interested enough to read it have some idea about what they want a reform government to look like.

Good informative post Graphite.

However the question was asked on the N&P thread, where I assume those interested enough to read it have some idea about what they want a reform government to look like.

To be fair, I don't think that Reform voters were given the space to explain their vision of what a Reform government would look like as the anti Reform posters jumped in practically straight away to rubbish it (and them?) Some silence from them might have been useful.

If you go back to the OP, that came in at 08.02.
Next in was an anti Labour post, 35 minutes after.

How long would you suggest the 'waiting time' should be?

Maremia

If you go back to the OP, that came in at 08.02.
Next in was an anti Labour post, 35 minutes after.

How long would you suggest the 'waiting time' should be?

I know it was an anti Labour post but people leapt in so fast to rubbish it that the purpose of the original post was lost and I can't blame Reform supporters for not bothering to try to. respond.

It wouldnt stop me or i suspect you ,maizie

What is worrying me is that, many reform voters are not thinking beyond immigration. regardless of the earth shattering policies that will make life so much harder for the poor and working class. I cant make sense of that. I do wish someone would answer. id be very happy to be proved wrong in my fears.

That was my post I'm not anti Labour when Starmer became PM I thought he would be straight as a dye but then scandals followed and then he was ousted and now we have Burnham foisted upon us, I'm definitely not happy with them and I don't think they are far left my post was tongue in cheek but neither do I think Reform are far right I think the Restore Party is far right. I'm a floating voter I've voted Labour Tory over the years and I voted Leave so there you are.