Has Trump Completely Lost It?

monami

History will tell you he was the greatest president ever, he bows to no man, gets things done, speaks straight and does t suffer fools gladly, the problem is the people of today groupthink, behave like sheep and do as their told without applying any logic or thoughts of their own, sad times

😀😀.

MayBee70

Sounds to me that Denmark have achieved exactly what they want on their terms but Trump is making out he has taken control of Greenland because of the elections.

In many ways, both Denmark and Greenland have got what we wanted. The US may established two new military bases in Greeland, and bring the one they already have back up to strength.

There are however strings attached: namely that Greenland is still part of the Kingdom of Denmark until or unless Greenland itself desires a change of status in the future.

The new military bases must as far as possible repect the Greenlanders' traditional way of life and Greenland and Denmark have a say in which companies may work in Greenland and what may be exported from Greenland. Any and all exports have to be paid for.

Last month it was Canada that was to be the 51st state of the US, now Trump again is saying Greenland. He is talking through his hat as per usual - presumably beause he either does not realise that the d eal has been brokered by the diplomats of the countries involved doing their job, or because he chooses to ignore this fact and claim all the credit for himself.

Trump is dangerous because by and large he himself believes the nonsense he spouts, and many of his followers still believe it too. He apparently knows nothing of international politics and diplomacy, nor does he care enough to bother to listen to those who do know.

I see no real change in him or in his politics and am afraid it is wishful thinking if anyone thinks he is going downhill fast.

Not read the specifics of the post - but Trump
never ‘had it’, so most certainly has ‘lost it’.

nanna8

I am not sure the man ever had it, never mind ‘lost’ it ! He is becoming a danger to the whole world. At least that is how it seems from my perspective. It would be interesting to hear an opposing point of view . Anyone ? Must be some who understand and support him, somewhere ?

You said what I was thinking. He never had it to lose. He is definitely a danger to the world and America, a walking time bomb.

MayBee70

The Democrats should have replaced Biden and given the electorate a democratically elected alternative. Biden had said he would only be president and reneged on it. Even now they don’t seem to have a creditable alternative to Trump. The whole world is being affected by this. And Trump is trying to make America a dictatorship having learned lessons from his idol, Putin. Imo I just hope I’m wrong, though. It terrifies me.

Governor Gavin Newsone of California is a credible prospective president for tge Democrats. Kamala Harris was as well but the MAGA voters didn't want a black woman as president. Everything that Kamala said Trump would do, has come to pass. He will go down in history as the worse president ever.

Why doesn't this app give you the option to Edit? I meant 'the'.

David49

Burnham did well at the UN. Trumps speech was significant, it gave him a way out of the Iran war,
he threatened to "annihilate Iran but hoped they would make a deal." then went went on "after the election"

He knows he cannot win but will blame congress for not continuing the war, in his mind thats his face saving way out.

Trump made his speech all about himself as usual.

David49

Maybe they will impeach Trump, then they get Vance hardly an enticing prospect.

Trump will pardon himself by executive order. As usual, he will find a way round this.

monami

...the problem is the people of today groupthink, behave like sheep and do as their told without applying any logic or thoughts of their own, sad times

I think the irony of that sentence completely escapes you.

monami

History will tell you he was the greatest president ever, he bows to no man, gets things done, speaks straight and does t suffer fools gladly, the problem is the people of today groupthink, behave like sheep and do as their told without applying any logic or thoughts of their own, sad times

Are you for real? I think you are joking.

Dickens

monami

...the problem is the people of today groupthink, behave like sheep and do as their told without applying any logic or thoughts of their own, sad times

I think the irony of that sentence completely escapes you.

But causes much merriment

Lesley60

He lost the plot years ago, he used to mock Joe Biden calling him sleepy joe etc and look at him, Im a retired Mental Health Professional and I’m seriously saying I have never seen a bigger narcissistic deluded person as him.
I just can’t understand how anyone could support his mad behaviour or how his wife is still with him.

He needs to be called Dozy Donald.

knspol

Trump, Putin, Netanyahu the three most dangerous men in the world today and Trump is at the forefront. He is at the very best an unstable liar but probably also plain incompetent. How on earth did he manage to get elected twice as president?!

You forgot to add Trump's latest friend, the Chinese president. I don't know how to spell his name. I think it ends in Ping?

madeleine45

I chose to follow Trumps own idea that if you decided to change the name of something, what you said counted. So as you may have seen previously, I have renamed the white house as The National Lunatic Asylum and it already has the most appropriate resident living there!!

😄 🤣 😂 so right.

For the OP and many others, please try and keep up?!! [But thank you 'Elegran'!}. This topic has been discussed many times, in assorted media, since his "we must have Greenland" rattle-throwing outburst.

USA had bases in Greenland dating back to the days of the Cold War, and President Truman.

See Wiki for a full analysis en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_in_Greenland

Over time, USA largely ABANDONED its bases there, but the new 'deal' means that one or two will be reinstated -- in THAT respect, I suppose Chump could be seen to be correct, but as he's gaga and never got past the 'H' of a history book, he's now talking as if it's a wonderful new 'achievement'. The way of the imbecilic but self-praising Orange Baboon.

There IS a strong suspicion that the aspect of military bases is just a handy cover to explore Greenland's remote landscape, searching for handy new precious metals. Though surely a grasping, amoral carpetbagger and all-round scumbag of a PoTUS would never dream of such a pretence?!

In general terms, yes, Chump is ever more hopeless with speeches, especially those where he goes 'off the cuff'. Irrational, bombastic, a crook, fraud and pervert (anyone seen those oft-promised Epstein files?), he's made most of the planet much poorer, including his own public, as hopefully he'll discover on Nov 4th (the 'midterms' have all 435 Representatives being elected, plus part of the Senate, two thirds of State Governors and a mass of other officials).

Unfortunately if when Chump departs (sooner the better) there is still a Republican PoTUS, it's likely to be another grasping, amoral nitwit (Vance is trying hard to get into position). At least the Democrats do now have some plausible charismatic candidates coming along.

I've posted this before, but there are always new readers :- About 100 years ago, an American journalist & essayist called H L Mencken published a number of witty quotes, this one was really prophetic :- “As democracy is perfected, the office of President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

😁 Sounds like something that Mark Twain or Groucho Marks or Dickens might have said.

Lovetopaint037

They have to want do something!
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I’m waiting to see what Trump does to try to scupper the mid-terms.

I wonder if America will roll over?

For Oreo. Yes, it might read that way. But it was Mencken, there are sites which list other funny stuff he penned (Beware -- he wasn't keen on politicians, nor religion!).

If Mencken had plagiarised Twain, or Dickens, etc, he'd have been exposed at the time, (100 years ago), but he wasn't.

NB - it's the 'MARX' brothers.

For Margs, and Oreo, and anyone else who doesn't read reports too accurately, or possibly at all --- this 'deal' is NOT new.

One more time >>>>> USA had a contract to keep bases on Greenland from the COLD WAR era, back in Truman's time as President. That's 75 years AGO!

Over time, they abandoned most of those bases, as they weren't needed. Now Chump is saying they are, but it's most likely a ploy to go and explore Greenland's vast inland areas to try and find the rare, precious metals that all the major industrial nations want to get a supply of.

Sorry, my dear
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns
Don't bothеr, they're herе

I see we have a deluded MAGA/Chump supporter in our midst, that's 'Monami' and that "History will tell you he was the greatest president ever, he bows to no man, gets things done, speaks straight and does t suffer fools gladly," (etc).

Well dear, PLEASE DO tell us exactly WHAT has been achieved? Creating an internal Gestapo force that can murder innocent civilians on the street, with no legal redress?

Promising that Mexico would pay for that wall - it didn't - and it hasn't been completed anyway?

Paying off a 'lady of the night' (sorry - 'Stormy the model') that he hadn't met, (until pictures emerged), and only admitted to when it was pointed out that if his lawyer HAD paid her off (his initial claim) that was illegal?

When ranting about illegal immigrants, and how he would send them back, had his winery interests quietly trying to hire MORE Mexican workers?

Disgracing USA on the world stage by going back on the Budapest treaty, which guaranteed protection of Ukraine, after they gave up their nuclear weapons when the Berlin Wall came down, and the Soviet Union collapsed? (There was that related promise to "end the Ukraine War on Day One" -- HOW is that going?).

His policies have made it far harder for poor people to access healthcare - that IS an achievement I suppose . . .hardly one to be proud of.

How about that promise for "no new wars" - this ludicrous attack on Iran has cost most of the planet, has cost USA trillions of dollars it doesn't have, killed 170 innocent schoolgirls, has alienated all the countries in NATO, and has upset all the once onside countries in the Middle East, as the Orange Baboon you're dribbling over has caused them to come under repeated attack.

If your hero is fervently against immigrants and crime, please DO tell us why he pardoned a drugs ganglord who was serving a 45 years jail term? Perhaps YOU know how much money changed hands?

Or was his prize achievement the complete fiasco of renovating the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool, awarding an uncontested contract to a friend of his from Florida with no experience in such work (that went well)?

Another achievement (of sorts) has been to keep delaying the Epstein files being published, in which he's mentioned as a pa*do on - we hear - thousands of occasions?

My favourite though was his speech (July 4th, 2019) about the patriots of the American War of Independence, when the Revolutionary Army "took over the airports to stop the British using them". Yesssssssss, shame your 'genius' hero, having had a stunted 'education' that involved no history, doesn't know that the Wright Brothers didn't produce an aeroplane for another 120+ years?!!

Maybe that IS his supreme accomplishment - an everyday gift for comedians? Much of the world isn't laughing any more though . . . .

For Lesley -- his wife isn't really "with him" now. She lives pretty much a separate life, gets wheeled out for State occasions, gets reputedly paid a huge allowance to stay on hand, and probably has a non-disclosure agreement to not spill the beans. No need to feel sorry for her, she knew exactly what she was signing up for when getting married.

Which is better....to try to anticipate future problems and take precautions or wait until something drastic happens and then deal with it?
Greenland is a huge landmass and strategically placed. Any sensible politician can see the potential benefit to a country hostile to the west.

mum2three

Which is better....to try to anticipate future problems and take precautions or wait until something drastic happens and then deal with it?
Greenland is a huge landmass and strategically placed. Any sensible politician can see the potential benefit to a country hostile to the west.

You are a bit behind the times - that was agreed decades ago between Truman, Greenland/Denmark.

The original agreement remains unaltered.