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The far left in France, could it happen here?

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Sago Tue 20-Oct-26 09:25:35

I have a real fear that the rioting and looting that France has seen over recent weeks could spread here to the UK.

What could Burnham do if it happens?

I pray he is prepared.

MawsRosie Tue 20-Oct-26 11:01:00

I rember riots in Brixton and near us in S London about 40 years ago and sleeping with a couple of buckets of water at the ready under our bay window. Also when D was trapped in her studio in Mare St in London because of rioting hordes rampaging down the street outside. We've had repeated civil disobedience often on hot summer evenings - less so when it's cold and wet - and some of the violence we have seen not that long ago on pro- or anti-Palestine "demonstrations" has been terrifying.
So. Short answer?
Yes

MawsRosie Tue 20-Oct-26 11:01:29

Remember

Cossy Tue 20-Oct-26 11:02:45

GrannyGravy13

Cossy schools in England have mandatory work experience in year 10.

When was this re-introduced? None of three younger children had this and they’re all still only in their twenties, yet our two older children did, and they are in their forties?

I’m very glad to hear this.

Cossy Tue 20-Oct-26 11:03:54

TerriBull

Maybe our age demographic would rather have a cup of tea at home, but then we aren't the ones facing some of the problems that undoubtedly the younger generation are having to deal with. I certainly hope this forthcoming budget does not disadvantage business any more than RR did in her capacity as Chancellor, meaning there will be even less employment opportunities for the younger generation trying to get their first foot on the ladder.

I absolutely agree but rioting and so called looting isn’t the answer.

fancythat Tue 20-Oct-26 11:03:58

fancythat

Macron said far-left agitators, Lecornia said far-left agitators, Julien Jegon said enacted by radical islamists and far-left agitators.

And the mayor that joined in, was far-left

fancythat Tue 20-Oct-26 11:05:17

Mamie

Whitewavemark2

He may have done but that is far too simplistic, and I would be cautious over accepting Macron’s explanation. Of course he is going to try to blame a group either far left or right rather than accept responsibility for the parlous state of the education system. However, whether the far left or right is taking advantage of the discontent is a different question, and undoubtedly there is always an element if this in any protest however small.

With regard to whether the U.K. could experience such widespread civil unrest. Well, the answer is - yes of course it could. But I would hope at present it is unlikely because I think the mitigating factor is the Burnham government, with its policies and rhetoric of easing the burden on the poor, the move to greater equality etc. I am also hopeful that distrust in government improves.

To my mind the biggest threat is from the far right and their links to Russia.

To be fair to Macron, it is the government that is responsible for domestic policy, including education. I think there have been years of under-investment in education in some areas, including modernisation of the curriculum. It seems that the online system for university has come in for a lot of criticism and I can't say I am surprised by that. When I first taught in French schools it felt like going back many years from the resources and teaching methods then current in UK schools. I am not surprised by the PISA results.

That seems to have been the beginning of it all.

fancythat Tue 20-Oct-26 11:06:42

I cant see the far-left in this Country, complaining about schooling.

Casdon Tue 20-Oct-26 11:15:47

There isn’t really an organised far left in this country anyway, they don’t have any traction?

Rosie51 Tue 20-Oct-26 11:17:18

MawsRosie We've had repeated civil disobedience often on hot summer evenings - less so when it's cold and wet. Not for nothing do police officers welcome "PC rain", it really does make a difference to a range of crime levels.

Margs Tue 20-Oct-26 11:25:11

Yes, of course it could happen here.

The video clips from Paris show the rioters to be overwhelmingly young males.

They either have too much time on their hands or they have a collective mental disorder. Or they're just plain greedy, judging by the amount of looting that went on.

MartavTaurus Tue 20-Oct-26 11:35:46

I'm not sure the term Far-Left in the OP and ensuing posts is completely correct. In the first few seconds of his address, Macron mentioned Ultra-gauche. I listen in the original language, not the translation. This is not "L'extrême-gauche" which would translate as Far Left.
The two are fundamentally different in the way they operate. Corbyn was very left wing, but not ultra left. We don't have the latter here, do we?

MartavTaurus Tue 20-Oct-26 11:37:33

Lecornu said ultra-gauche too, not far left.

Witzend Tue 20-Oct-26 11:56:02

Have to say I was amused by the front cover of today’s Times 2 section - one half a photo of smoke and fire in a French city street, the other half a photo of an attractive smiling woman with her 2 children - behind a table set with a cheeseboard - inc what looks like a Brie or Camembert - and baguettes.

The large print caption reads, ‘We moved to France for our children’s education. Is it time to leave?

Call me a nasty baggage if you like, but especially since I have some relatives of the type who are do love banging on about how much better everything is in France, I couldn’t help just a little bit of Schadenfreude. 😈