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All Johnson supporters should watch this. An interview with Rory Stewart

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MaizieD Fri 27-May-22 19:07:57

How Johnson works

Is this the way to run a country?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZslHXbAuI

MaizieD Sat 28-May-22 09:07:00

Let's just bump this.

J52 Sat 28-May-22 09:14:18

Very interesting, but I suppose people will say Rory has an axe to grind.

DaisyAnne Sat 28-May-22 09:45:32

Rory Stewart goes down, in my estimation, after seeing this video. I did think he had some interesting views and opinions. Other people, who are stronger than him, also have those views. The Conservatives took this man and gave him the leadership of our country. They did this while knowing him for exactly what he is. His only party is the Boris Party; his only country Borisland. After his changes to the Ministerial Code - particularly the removal of the Sovereign, replacing her with himself, I think we should be very afraid.

It's obvious many in the Conservative Party knew how unbalanced Johnson was long before most of us did, even if we had our suspicions. Looking at the man I wonder what we have to come. If he becomes depressed by his current challenges, he could become paranoid. It's happened to challenged, immature dictators in the past and then, we may find, all hell is let loose.

MaizieD Sat 28-May-22 10:00:32

Rory Stewart did not empower Johnson, DaisyAnne. He fought him for the leadership because he knew he was totally unfit for the role. He has made his views very clear ever since.

I can't see why he has gone down in your estimation.

The only thing that I have never been able to comprehend is why such an intelligent, thinking, caring man was ever a tory...

DaisyAnne Sat 28-May-22 10:45:06

I imagine that you can't see why he has gone down in my estimation because he hasn't in yours. That's okay; I think that just means we have, at this point, a difference of opinion smile That opinion is not something I can be argued out of nor, I expect, you can be argued into.

I did share the puzzlement you expressed in your last sentence, until I saw this video.

Happygirl79 Sat 28-May-22 10:46:33

The changes to the ministerial code is the beginning of the end either for Boris or ourselves. Depends on the strength or ongoing weakness of our MPs

Katie59 Sat 28-May-22 11:25:35

Changes in the ministerial code will change nothing, wrongdoing will still get reported, it will be public opinion and acceptability of the allegation that will matter rather than any automatic action.

volver Sat 28-May-22 11:30:18

I've said this before so sorry for repeating myself...

In our house he is know as "Rory the Tory" 😳 I heard him speak at an event a few years ago. I admire him for what he has done, but his grip of domestic politics is woeful. He was almost laughed out of the event and managed to alienate a big proportion of the people there.

He's definitely a Tory. Old style, but definitely a Tory.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 28-May-22 12:57:13

He no longer describes himself as a Tory. He says that he would stand as an independent if he ever stood again.

He says that he is a person who prefers to tackle issues in a practical way rather than with an ideological one. Although I’m not convinced that anyone does that.

volver Sat 28-May-22 13:01:32

He has got particular ideas that are very conservative though. He's right of centre and he's a unionist who thinks Scotland and England are really just the same country.

I've given away my prejudices now. grin

However he does appear to be a man of principle, in a time when they seem to be few and far between.

Aveline Sat 28-May-22 13:07:01

A unionist and a man of principle? What's not to like?!

MaizieD Sat 28-May-22 13:13:15

Katie59

Changes in the ministerial code will change nothing, wrongdoing will still get reported, it will be public opinion and acceptability of the allegation that will matter rather than any automatic action.

Really? I am very surprised...

Have you not noticed that public opinion is the very last thing that matters to this government?

volver Sat 28-May-22 13:14:33

That he told a Glasgow audience they had no experience of what it was like to have people of different cultures living in their city?

That he was an English MP who tried to tell the same audience that they were better together and they were really not understanding what he was telling them?

You're a lucky man, Rory. Just about got out of that venue in one piece.

volver Sat 28-May-22 13:15:05

Sorry MaizieD, that was to Aveline.

Aveline Sat 28-May-22 14:07:16

Glasgow though volver what do you expect?! grin

poshpaws Sat 28-May-22 14:16:19

volver He was lucky indeed! grin

Whitewavemark2 Sat 28-May-22 14:29:05

I thought that he is Scottish?

volver Sat 28-May-22 14:34:13

Having one's father born in Scotland and partial to tartan trews doesn't make you Scottish. wink

volver Sat 28-May-22 14:35:05

Aveline

Glasgow though volver what do you expect?! grin

Well we thought we were getting somebody who knew what they were talking about.

volver Sat 28-May-22 14:46:31

volver

Having one's father born in Scotland and partial to tartan trews doesn't make you Scottish. wink

Sorry. And being partial...

I have no idea what his father's sartorial choices were. wink

Sussexborn Sat 28-May-22 14:54:22

More from the fully paid up supporters of Stonewall. Whatever happened to democracy?

volver Sat 28-May-22 14:57:51

??

DiamondLily Sun 29-May-22 09:56:34

Tory grandees are allegedly on the move to rid themselves of Johnson.

Some because of Johnson's behaviour, some because they are angry about the money doled out, to help the cost of living crisis, last week.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/28/boris-johnson-partygate-tory-tax-mps-pm

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10864185/Partygate-Secret-Tory-plot-topple-Boris-replace-Jeremy-Hunt.html

Aveline Sun 29-May-22 12:25:52

Wow. 'Grandees'. There's a word you don't hear often. Can I be one?