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Migrants Hated everywhere??

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Cossy Fri 12-Jun-26 10:35:56

It’s pretty clear that some people in the UK despise migrants, I’m not sure why, but it could be a myriad of reasons from them simply being different to perceived, but not necessarily true, beliefs around their faith, to causing, or at least adding to, housing issues, taking up places in schools, using the NHS or any other valid, but not necessarily accurate reason.

I wonder do if these same people ever consider the vast amount of British people who live across the world, Canada/USA/Europe/UAE being the most common, and the reasons for moving are also varied.

In some countries the “natives” despise British interlopers, especially those who label themselves “ex-pats”. Reasons for disliking them? They don’t integrate, some don’t learn he language, some are disrespectful to locals. Mmmmm, sounds very familiar.

In some cases, decades ago, a good few criminals settled in parts of Spain, enough for it to be christened “The Costa del Crime”.

Doesn’t this illustrate that in some (not all) ways we are no different from migrants seeking solace in the UK or attempting to come here for economic reasons.

We are all humans, all in certain geographical regions initially purely by an accident of birth.

Violent, nasty, disturbed criminals aside, most of these migrants, whoever and wherever they end up seeks better, safer, more peaceful lives for their families.

I have very good British born friends living in the South of France, Spain and Turkey and relatives, British born, who live in both Canada and California and they’ve settled and now have families of their own.

I hate all the hostilities and wish we could find a solution to have a much quicker and fairer immigration system for both those coming in via legal means and those entering as Asylum Seekers.

AGAA4 Fri 12-Jun-26 10:51:20

Asylum seekers seem to be used as a cause of all the problems in our country which is not fair as it's the super wealthy who are causing much of it.
People from here do emigrate to other parts of the world but would do that through legal means I would think.
We do need to reduce the numbers coming in as our infrastructure can't cope but the hatred shown to Asylum seekers is disproportionate. There are many things that need fixing and constantly blaming them takes focus off those who have more power to harm our country

paddyann54 Fri 12-Jun-26 10:57:04

This is all being ramped up by the likes of Farage &Co Itstartedwith his poster of immigrants queuing before Brexit.
This man needs jailed for inciting hatred.. sadly he,s targeting people of low intelligence who believe his sorry tales of immigrants being the root of all their woes…when in fact it’s men in suits in Parliament or in Farage,s case who got voted in but like his other jobs..doesn,t turn up and gets large sums of cash from dubious sources.
This is certainly not the Scotland we know ,we have always fought FOR people not scapegoated them

Maremia Fri 12-Jun-26 10:58:35

And that's why we should look at who is behind the Politicians promoting this grievance.
Who are the 'funders'? What is their agenda?

Cossy Fri 12-Jun-26 11:00:28

Great points AGAA4 However pretty sure AS arrive the same way as they do here in many other countries.

AS still only make up a very small percentage of our overall population, I believe around 1%.

People like Trump starting wars like Iran, and what’s still going on in Ukraine, Gaza and Afganistan, not to mention many parts of Africa, mean more and more displaced families, they have to live somewhere. Of course not all can come here, and many many don’t. There appears to be some perception among some people that ALL AS head here and it simply isn’t true.

Perhaps if groups like Reform and Restore and the media didn’t keep replicating the same old inaccurate statements people wouldn’t get so stirred up about immigrants in general.

Primrose53 Fri 12-Jun-26 11:35:47

OK, I’ll bite because clearly you are expecting some to disagree.

Firstly, I think “hate” is the wrong word.

Secondly, I have never met a person yet who does not mind at all the people who come here legally, with qualifications to get a good job and work and pay their taxes. They support themselves and we admire their skills and their work ethic. We have welcomed them for decades.

However, many countries are completely fed up now with asylum seekers/illegal immigrants, irregular immigrants (call them what you will) getting into their homelands with no means of supporting themselves and becoming a drain on their own country.

You mention Brits who move to other countries. Entirely different because they support themselves and don’t cost their host countries anything.

I have a friend from Tanzania who lives here, West Indian friend since I was 17, German mother in law (now deceased), French, Belgian, Czech Republic, Spanish friends and that’s just off the top of my head as I’m dashing out. All here legally and working and paying taxes.

sundowngirl Fri 12-Jun-26 11:48:11

Primrose53

I totally agree and well done for 'putting your head above the parapet'

westendgirl Fri 12-Jun-26 11:59:46

I think that the Faridge followers latch on to his message because they have to have someone to blame for their success o(or lack of it in life).They are easy targets and he has fed them his lies to stop them from investigating who it is exactly that is causing their problems.

Cabbie21 Fri 12-Jun-26 12:02:15

Some of those targeted in Belfast were from Ukraine, others were NHS workers. Unthinking prejudice against “ foreigners” is rife. Yet look at our history, invaded by Vikings, Romans, the Normans, to name a few, so we are almost all of mixed origin.