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Mispronunciation at the BBC. Whatever next!

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lizzieb Wed 08-Jun-11 16:16:14

The moment a certain weather lady broadcasts (usually on Today or PM) I have to turn off before I hear her pronounce "this afternoon" "this afterneen". I've written to the programme presenters but they take no notice.
AND those programme presenters who use 'teeu' for 'to', yew' for 'you', and who introduce Yvette Cooper as Yvette Queueper........

jeni Sat 12-May-12 19:26:14

Probationer teachers in her class?
Good grief, are they that bad they have to go all the way back to primary school? [shakes head]

Anagram Sat 12-May-12 19:32:58

jeni! grin Behave!

jeni Sat 12-May-12 19:44:10

Wot me?

Nelliemoser Sun 13-May-12 08:47:33

Its not so much pronunciation that I get angry about. I dont get too hung up on grammer unless it renders what is being said as ambigous. I can cope with local accents providing people sound the consonants in the words. Without these language is reduced to incomprenhensible vowel sounds. Its usually younger people who do this. "Is that known as estuary english"

I do not want a return to the oh so posh BBC english of the 1960s. But people could speak more clearly. There is a lady on Radio 4 gardeners question time who has a strong Lancashire accent but she is intelligible as she sounds the consonants.
An example of speakers with poor clarity the young girls who deliver news updates on BBC televison on the early evening. They appear to have been given a brief to sound trendy.
Or I suppose I could go for a hearing test.

gracesmum Sun 13-May-12 09:24:13

Why do some people say "marshmEllow" for "marshmallow? Is it an English usage as I never heard it when I lived in Scotland. I am also hugely amused by "skellington" shock

Bags Sun 13-May-12 11:01:21

I agree, nelliemoser. Most regional accents are fine so long as people articulate.

I love "skellington". It has a humourous appeal. Or do I mean humerus? wink

Anagram Sun 13-May-12 11:22:07

grin

I think "skellington" is often used in a tongue-in-cheek way. I remember it from the old music hall song, 'A Mother's Lament', recorded in the 60s by Cream - these are the lyrics only:

lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/y/yourbabyhasgonedowntheplughole.shtml

absentgrana Sun 13-May-12 11:26:54

Has anyone noticed that, as the 2012 Olympics, approaches a new type of athlete has appeared – the cheater. I heard this twice on the BBC news on the day the torch was lit.

Thinking about sport, I should like to know where Wemberley is. Perhaps someone from the London Assemberly (both heard frequently on the BBC) could tell me.

Mamie Sun 13-May-12 12:01:24

I like regional accents on TV too, but I did chuckle when I heard a business presenter say the other day that there was "trooble in't boardroom..."

Greatnan Sun 13-May-12 12:22:54

Mamie, I used to have a strong Salford accent (much softened by having left Lancashire nearly fifty years ago) and did get a bit fed up with Southerners saying 'Cum quick, trouble at t'mill'. I used to tell them that the first hundred people who had said it to me had also thought they were being funny and original. I would never dream of commenting on anyone's accent or trying to mimic it - just normal good manners, I think. (I know you were not being patronising, Mamie and I must confess that Fred Dibnah used to make me smile!)

absentgrana Sun 13-May-12 13:59:11

Taking the p* out of other people's accents is not just a British thing. Absentdaughter has lived in New Zealand for 12 years and sounds quite kiwi to my ears. However, she still encounters silly people who mock her British accent (for British read posh). No doubt, she still sounds quite British to New Zealanders, but she has never said hice for house in her entire life.

absentgrana Sun 13-May-12 14:00:10

Where did the other two ** go?

Greatnan Sun 13-May-12 14:08:32

They got p*ssed off!

Bags Sun 13-May-12 14:09:15

There is systematic asterisk elimination going on on GN, absent. I've remarked upon it before. hmm

Bags Sun 13-May-12 14:09:47

Greatnan's answer is better. grin

Greatnan Sun 13-May-12 14:12:16

I hope we are not going to have our posts censored- we are all consenting adults and anyone who doesn't like what we post need not read it.

Anagram Sun 13-May-12 14:16:58

I'm sure I saw an actual swear word on a thread not long ago - though I'm not going to repeat it here just to see if it gets through!

Greatnan Sun 13-May-12 15:26:12

Words which are now considered rude or crude were very often in normal use a few centuries ago. One person's colourful language is another person's swearing. There are only a couple of words I would not use, because they sum up a contemptuous attitude to women and their bodies.

absentgrana Sun 13-May-12 17:42:40

Greatnan Yes, I once wrote a magazine article called "A Rat up a Drainpipe" about the use of female biological imagery as a means of abuse. Weren't the 1970s an exciting time?

jeni Sun 13-May-12 18:44:21

I'm sure I heard that one word was an acronym of a legal term ' for use of carnal knowledge' can any of you medievalists confirm?

Elegran Sun 13-May-12 19:11:14

I think that was an explanation devised after the word had been in use for centuries. There are etymologically similar terms in other languages, which do not fit relevant acronyms. It was just a mediaeval word for a basic activity, short and expressive. Come to think of it, it is a bit onomatopoeic if you say it repeatedly out loud and use your imagination.

jeni Sun 13-May-12 19:22:39

I've forgottengrin

absentgrana Fri 18-May-12 09:12:22

BBC news readers seem to have invented a new Cabinet Member – the Pry Minister. I know we live in an age of CCTV and personally intrusive legislation, but is this appointment really necessary? grin

railman Fri 19-Oct-12 18:42:29

There's another one that sets my teeth on edge - the tendency to make a statement sound like a question when the pitch of the voice is raised at the end!!

Aaarrrgghhh - just like Americanese!!

Ana Fri 19-Oct-12 18:43:53

I think it's more Australianese....grin