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'Cupcake' instead of fairy cake or bun

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JoKyJo Fri 10-Aug-12 11:45:03

I find this one hard to understand - when I was little, they were always 'buns', 'butterfly buns' if the top was cut in two to make wings with a blob of buttercream underneath, or possibly 'fairy cakes' if they were fully iced.
Fairy cake is so much nicer than 'cupcake'! Why has everyone begun calling them cupcakes?

greenmossgiel Sun 12-Aug-12 15:23:14

My Scottish mother was pleased when my Nottinghamshire grandma described me as 'bonny' when I was a young child. Unfortunately 'bonny' in Nottingham-speak means fat and not pretty like my mum thought! grin

merlotgran Sun 12-Aug-12 15:17:15

The first time I heard of barm cakes was an early episode of Coronation Street. The raincoat factory would send out an order to the corner shop. I hadn't a clue what they were talking about and wondered why they didn't have a bread roll for lunch instead. confused
DH is from Yorkshire and MIL used to talk about baked potatoes when she was referring to the Sunday roast. I thought she meant jacket potatoes. I also thought she was being critical when she described me as being 'fussy' when DD1 was born. I didn't know at the time that fussy meant proud. hmm

greenmossgiel Sun 12-Aug-12 08:44:17

Pikelets in Nottingham (my hometown). They were about 4" in diameter and just a bit less than an inch deep and all holey and pale on the top, but with brown base. Here in Fife they are 'crumpets'.....and are pre-packed (yuck)! However, fresh 'crimpets' can also be found at the bakers and they are thin and floppy. There used to be a pikelet factory at the end of our road when we lived in Nottingham in the 70's. It was no more than a large shed, .....ah....the memories! grin

Bags Sun 12-Aug-12 07:49:42

Just checked and, as I suspected, 'barm' is from an Old English word via Danish. North Lancs dialect heavily influenced by Danish Viking language. Looks as if they got into Cheshire as well, nag. Plenty of good sailable rivers – Lune, Wyre, Ribble, Mersey – and not such a long way from Dublin and other Viking strongholds wink.

Anagram Sat 11-Aug-12 22:03:42

That's the same definition of cobs and barm cakes that we had in Cheshire where I grew up, Bags. Try asking for a barm cake in Wales and they don't know what you mean!

Bags Sat 11-Aug-12 21:52:56

Milk loaves, anyone?

Bags Sat 11-Aug-12 21:52:36

Cobs and barm cakes were two different things in north Lancs where I grew up. A barm cake is a flat, soft bread roll with a thumb-made imprint made in the centre of the dough before baking, and a cob is a larger piece of dough, oval shaped, often scored, and with a slightly crispy crust.

jeni Sat 11-Aug-12 16:59:48

I thought cob was a method of building? Manure!

kittylester Sat 11-Aug-12 16:31:22

My Zimbabwean soon to be son in law always laughs like a drain when we ask him if he'd like a cob.

We had cobs in Derbyshire too Nellie but my Nan, from Lancashire, made barm cakes and oven bottoms (??). My posh granny, also in Derbyshire, called them bread rolls!

Annobel Sat 11-Aug-12 16:28:43

jeni, it isn't a virtual Waitrose....hmm

Nelliemoser Sat 11-Aug-12 16:20:55

Pikelet crumpets whatever. Look at all the words for plain bread "cobs." (that from Leicester. There are Baps, Barm cakes, Bread cakes and I am sure you can all provide many more. Arn't local English dialects wonderful!

jeni Sat 11-Aug-12 16:10:28

Pick some up for me! If they're virtual they can't be fattening. Can theyconfused

Annobel Sat 11-Aug-12 15:20:18

Must pop down the road to Waitrose ...... right now!

nightowl Sat 11-Aug-12 15:11:32

All the time Annobel, as my figure will testify! Come to think of it, DS is getting a bit porky too grin

Annobel Sat 11-Aug-12 15:04:40

All the time, nightowl? envy

nightowl Sat 11-Aug-12 14:22:10

We eat toated teacakes all the time in my house. My 23 yr old DS, home from uni for the summer, is addicted to them. It's a taste handed down from their darling granny, my mum, along with bread and jam! smile

JO4 Sat 11-Aug-12 14:18:24

and shortbread!

JO4 Sat 11-Aug-12 14:18:13

They do a nice toasted teacake at the River Museum at Henley riverside.

jeni Sat 11-Aug-12 13:40:32

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Annobel Sat 11-Aug-12 13:01:04

Toasted teacake available in the restaurant at my local garden centre. When I used to drive home from Dundee, I tried to reach the village of Broughton in the Borders in time for elevenses at a delightful tearoom which served perfect toasted teacakes. Sadly this is not an option when travelling by train. sad

absentgrana Sat 11-Aug-12 12:54:50

jeni We have an old-fashioned tea shop in the centre of town (it also serves excellent coffee) and Mr absent and I sometimes go there for tea and toasted tea cakes when we think we deserve a treat.

Bags Sat 11-Aug-12 12:36:26

We used both terms interchangeably for the thick ones. One of my nephews was called Pikelet by his parents when he was wee too.

jeni Sat 11-Aug-12 12:34:48

On a slightly different , but related, note. When did you last have a toastes tea cake?

jeni Sat 11-Aug-12 12:33:04

Gary(font of all knowledge) says he's allways known pike lets as thin crumpets!

JO4 Sat 11-Aug-12 12:21:15

interesting answers here

Think it might be a North/South thing. smile