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Daft sayings

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absentgrana Sun 02-Dec-12 08:06:51

Does any organist ever pull out all the stops?

Does anyone in the entire world ever suffer fools gladly?

LullyDully Sat 16-Feb-13 15:32:02

And if you are interested the great voice of Googly wisdom saidThe origins of this phrase are very simple...

One fine morning, a gentleman called Bartholomew woke to the sound of Autumn.

He went down to his fishing pond to collect breakfast, Rainbow Trout none the less.

Upon his arrival he was greeted with a most sinister occurance...he could identify not a fish in sight! More to his amazement was the sheer volume of Frog spawn.

To cut a long story short, the spawn produced a phalanx of Frogs. To liberate his beloved Rainbow Trout from the scourge of the Frog, he acquired many boxes. In these boxes, he carefully gathered up all the Frogs he could find and firmly closed the lid. In a frenzy of panic, the now captured amphibious creatures leapt within their recycled prison cells in a feeble attempt to escape.

So there you have it, put a some frogs in a box and they'll go mad.

Mad as a box of frogs.:
Not very exciting really!!!!

LullyDully Sat 16-Feb-13 15:26:22

The new saying which has me a bit stumped as to origin in 'mad as a box of frogs'. Will google it

nightowl Sat 16-Feb-13 15:19:33

They all bring back memories for me Mamacaz and were common in the west riding when I was growing up.

MamaCaz Sat 16-Feb-13 15:12:29

Can I add a few daft sayings that might be pure Yorkshire?

When she was surprised, my grandma used to say (in her Holmfirth accent), "Eeh, I'll go teh' foot of our stairs!", or "Eeh, I'll go to our house!"

And if I did something either amusing (I think!) or slightly strange, she would say, "Eeh, you're a cough drop!".

Ariadne Tue 12-Feb-13 16:25:08

Jane was it "bathos"?

Bags "sage"? (wise person)

Can't keep up today - I am, to quote my Nan, like an old hen scratching for daylight.

absent Tue 12-Feb-13 16:12:09

phoenix This is one explanation, although how true it is is anybody's guess. American racehorse trainers used to put a goat in the stall as a companion to a nervous horse. If someone took the goat away, the horse became upset and would run badly. Presumably the kidnapper (ho ho) had a bet on another horse.

Anne58 Tue 12-Feb-13 15:12:51

Some of the phrases usued in job descriptions really get my goat (and how did that phrase come about I wonder?)

Why must people be able to "hit the ground running"? why should all sales persons be "hungry" ?

And as for "tenacious, charismatic yet resilient" well, that just puts me in mind of a slightly aloof bull terrier.

Ronni Tue 12-Feb-13 13:54:08

My Nans favourite saying to us grubby grandkids was Soap and water costs nowt! Obviously before the advent of water rates and the recent cost of washing powder! confused

Freda47 Fri 14-Dec-12 10:12:53

I've just (belatedly) read all these posts and had a real laugh - all hail grans everywhere: we're a bright and brainy lot!
(So says the freelance proofreader who hadn't even heard of "Paraprosdokian"... hangs head in shame.)

feetlebaum Mon 03-Dec-12 17:01:16

"I like the French for midwife - femme sage" - Yes... "wise woman" - it has a certain whiff of the village crone who just might - might, I say - have been thought a witch!

'Midwife' is more Teutonic - one who is 'with' (cf 'mit') the wife/woman.

Greatnan Mon 03-Dec-12 16:56:01

I like the French for midwife - femme sage.

absentgrana Mon 03-Dec-12 15:22:19

God shapes the back to fit the burden. There's a really specious saying.

annodomini Mon 03-Dec-12 11:52:26

Perhaps wisdom is old-fashioned nowadays. I always thought that was the point of getting old - accumulating wisdom - though now that I'm there, I'm not so sure... grin

Ana Mon 03-Dec-12 11:46:12

Or 'savant', which is even less common!

Anne58 Mon 03-Dec-12 11:41:44

Hello all, yes jane that is the word, and I did start a thread on them a while back.

Bags the only word that comes to mind re. word for wise people is "sage". It pops up from time to time in cryptic crosswords, but doesn't seem to be in common useage these days.

annodomini Sun 02-Dec-12 20:18:21

Bathos:
Here thou great Anna whom three realms obey
Dost sometimes counsel take, and sometimes tea. (Pope)

Zeugma:
She left in tears and a sedan chair.
(same verb and preposition, different objects)

Greatnan Sun 02-Dec-12 20:14:48

I quoted 'she came in triumph and a black cab' which is, I think, bathos. Definition - moving from higher things to the commonplace.

Ariadne Sun 02-Dec-12 20:05:08

Being pedantic, Greatnan but I think the figure of speech to which you refer ("She came in boots and a black cab") is hendiadys? (Crawls into corner.)

Bags Sun 02-Dec-12 18:40:57

Sorry if you felt put down by me, absent. I guess I was being too literal!!!!! It's so hard to know if something is meant to be light-hearted. That's why I like emoticons. A little wink does wonders. Glad to hear, on another thread, that you've had a nice time today.

absentgrana Sun 02-Dec-12 18:20:05

I felt a bit immediatley put down when I started what I thought was a quite light-hearted thread, so thank you everyone who is still contributing jolly postings.

Ana Sun 02-Dec-12 15:28:30

That thread must have completely passed me by....I have no recollection of it whatsoever! confused

annodomini Sun 02-Dec-12 15:26:14

There was a whole thread on this back in September, thanks to phoenix.

Greatnan Sun 02-Dec-12 15:16:13

Ah, that's a new one since I left teaching!

janeainsworth Sun 02-Dec-12 14:28:06

no Greatnan I've found it now by googling 'sentence with an unexpected ending' and got this
I think the reason I couldn't remember it is because I'm not sure how to pronounce it and so hadn't built a picture of the word in my mind, if that makes sensesmile
Probably notgrin

Greatnan Sun 02-Dec-12 13:41:39

My dearly-loved sister often does foolish things, like missing planes, trains and coaches. I just sigh internally and sort things out for her. On the other hand, when a sales assistant in a shoe shop tells me they don't have size 7 but they do have size 5, I find it hard not to make a sarcastic retort. So, I suppose it depends how much I like/love the fool.