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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 06-Feb-13 09:15:03

Saw this and thought of you (and us!)

www.guardian.co.uk/teacher-network/teacher-blog/quiz/2013/feb/04/grammar-punctuation-quiz-test?CMP=twt_gu

grumppa Wed 06-Feb-13 15:49:29

14/14, BUT...

In 4 the subordinate clause is conditional, not the sentence.

In 5 the 'correct' answer seems to me to be a subordinate phrase, not a clause. I thought a subordinate clause had to contain a finite verb.

I agree there is confusion between grammatically and orthographically in 10. The same error occurred in one of the 'Two Brains' questions in last Saturday's Times

feetlebaum Wed 06-Feb-13 15:06:39

Bags I don't think that sentence was an example of the subjunctive, which surely needs to express doubt - 'If it be possible to dig a tunnel...'
'Were he to be able to dig a tunnel...'

janeainsworth Wed 06-Feb-13 15:05:52

Feetle If you scroll down a bit further from your score, you can click on a link that takes you to the right answers and it shows where you went wrong.

feetlebaum Wed 06-Feb-13 15:02:03

13/14 - but I don't know which question I got wrong!

Funny thing - I don't recall ever hearing the word 'gerund' in my school days. Come to that I didn't learn the "its/it's" set-up until I was in my twenties - so much for Grammar School education!

janeainsworth Wed 06-Feb-13 15:01:28

I should add that Mr Wetton's explanations were often accompanied by Basil Fawlty-type antics of total exasperation as half the class failed to 'get' it grin

janeainsworth Wed 06-Feb-13 14:57:50

Bags wrote: " I don't agree that this sentence is conditional: "He thought he might be able to dig a tunnel through the rock".

I think it is passive because it describes a thought."

Bags passive and active voices are nothing to do with thinking.

If a verb is in the active voice, the sentence goes subject-verb-object.
Or as my Latin master Mr Wetton explained, 'Rover sees the ball'.

If it is in the passive voice, something is done or happens to something else.
Mr Wetton again: 'The ball is seen by Rover'.

Hope that helps grin

absent Wed 06-Feb-13 14:50:03

Bags Isn't it actually subjunctive rather than conditional? But that wasn't an option.

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 14:41:14

That test isn't for the kids Bags. Thank goodness! (our little feller wouldn't have a clue with that) grin

Galen Wed 06-Feb-13 13:48:14

Obviously iPad doesn't know gerund either!

Galen Wed 06-Feb-13 13:47:40

11/14. Not bad for a mere doctor who hasn't studied E Lang for 50 years.
Never heard of a Grundy before!

Bags Wed 06-Feb-13 13:30:15

Glad it's not just me, elegran. Actually, I think the test is quite hard for eleven year olds.

Elegran Wed 06-Feb-13 13:27:08

I couldn't find a conditional sentence in the three choices on that question, so plumped for that one as being the nearest.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 06-Feb-13 13:26:48

Ana LOL - I have my 30 year reunion this year (since leaving not starting) so not sooooo recent

Bags Wed 06-Feb-13 13:10:56

Come on, grammar gurus. What do you say?

Bags Wed 06-Feb-13 13:09:53

I don't agree that this sentence is conditional: "He thought he might be able to dig a tunnel through the rock".

I think it is passive because it describes a thought. The thought is conditional (possibly – I'd say subjunctive, actually) but the sentence describing it isn't.

glassortwo Wed 06-Feb-13 12:57:43

12

glassortwo Wed 06-Feb-13 12:55:16

j08 8 when did that happen?

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 12:49:32

And I would have thought No 10 is more about correct spelling then grammar! Why does it ask which is grammatically correct. They all sound dreadful anyway. Punctuation is bad, at the very least.

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 12:46:01

I might have guessed right!

Ana Wed 06-Feb-13 12:41:48

So you got 11 really! grin

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 12:38:51

And I googled gerund.

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 12:36:55

I got 12.

I think the first question is rubbish though. How can polluted be an antonym for hygienic? confused A glass of pure water with a splash of vodka would be polluted by the vodka but it wouldn't be unhygienic. What's wrong with unhygienic anyway?

hmm

Anne58 Wed 06-Feb-13 11:46:50

shysal it is a term used when giving directions. For example if someone says "can you direct me to the station, please?" you can reply "Yes of course. You gerund the corner and it's on your left". grin

shysal Wed 06-Feb-13 11:40:54

11/14. What is a gerund? Never heard of it [ignorant emoticon]!

moomin Wed 06-Feb-13 11:22:43

I shocked and amazed! I got 12!!! My brain still works smile