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Modern spelling and text speak

(49 Posts)
kittylester Fri 15-Nov-13 08:09:18

I've just seen the following on FB: 'Soz bout yr mum' following someone posting that their mother had just died. Strikes me as very offhand.

Nina we tend not to correct another poster's slip-ups.

thatbags Fri 15-Nov-13 06:37:48

How sad that people can get depressed over spelling mistakes bad spelling when real grief is in the air.

berdie Thu 14-Nov-13 22:45:44

Well spotted ninathenana, must read it through before pressing sendwink

Deedaa Thu 14-Nov-13 20:57:04

My daughter and I make it a rule never to buy anything on line from anyone who uses textspeak, or just can't spell. I'm afraid that, at well over 50, I say cool an awful lot though.

It rather depresses me that, whenever there is a tragic death of a teenager and the tributes from their friends are shown, so many of them are full of spelling mistakes.

Maggiemaybe Thu 14-Nov-13 12:33:22

Lord, Ana - ickle and lickle, I detest them!

I don't mind text speak in its rightful place - on a teenager's mobile usually. But I saw a request for feedback from a job interview in text speak recently - it does worry me that someone in their 20s didn't understand that this wasn't appropriate.

ninathenana Thu 14-Nov-13 12:26:50

As we are in Pedants' corner I'm going to be the one who dares to point out Berdie's slip up when talking about there iPads grin grin

I too find text speak annoying when used in e-mails or anywhere other than a text message.

annodomini Thu 14-Nov-13 12:20:47

My GD used to used text-speak until she got an i-phone and predictive text which detects her intentions and speaks English.

inishowen Thu 14-Nov-13 12:10:24

I've seen text speak written on the cards that accompany flowers, when someone has died. Even at the time like that they couldn't use proper English.

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 11:24:31

mamie wink

Ana Thu 14-Nov-13 11:20:48

My pet hate is 'lickle'.

Mamie Thu 14-Nov-13 11:02:58

Plenty of people my age who fink and fought. My granny and her generation too. Lunnun innit.

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 10:46:47

The link didn't work, mice.

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 10:44:45

Use of text speak writing is rebellion against the rules. People who use it enjoy getting people who hate it into a tizz. Keep calm and ignore it or join in is my approach. Off to read that Grauniad artikle the noo.

berdie Thu 14-Nov-13 10:35:50

I'm sorry, I may have given the wrong impression, I do not want English to be "fossilised", just used properly in the right context. There are children attending school who cannot string a sentence together, lets make sure they can speak English correctly first, then use text speak or whatever on there IPhones later. I wouldn't want them to be like one of our managers, who is in his late forties, and still "finks" and has "foughts"

annodomini Thu 14-Nov-13 10:20:28

In pubs there used to be - maybe still is - a number plate above the bar with RU18 on it which is, like the fictional detective, a Rebus.

Mamie Thu 14-Nov-13 10:03:17

I don't think it is always "lazy" to play around with language and try out new genres. I think it is lazier to think that language should be fossilised in some golden age and any departure from that must be evidence of declining standards, poor education, the awfulness of youth etc etc
I don't always use text speak, but I do sometimes because it is fun and stretches my brain.
I suggested to my neighbour that we went shopping in Car4 the other day. She liked it.

MiceElf Thu 14-Nov-13 09:33:45

But, take a look at one of the most distinguished linguistics scholars has to say:

www.theguardian.com/books/2008/jul/05/saturdayreviewfeatres.guardianreview

Ariadne Thu 14-Nov-13 09:21:32

Oh yes - was it called speedwriting?

My old lecture notes look like text speak..

feetlebaum Thu 14-Nov-13 09:17:08

Remember when something very similar to text lingo was advertised as an alternative to shorthand - back in the fifties? About the time when 'cool' was coined... it's all sixty years out of date!

Ariadne Thu 14-Nov-13 09:09:21

Text speak is just a modern variation of language; the problem as ever, is that it is only appropriate within certain groups and at specific times. Many people don't use it appropriately.

Sloppy speech is another matter altogether! On the local BBC news, here in the SW, there is a young weather presenter who insists on talking about the "Chall islands"! Would like to smack her.

berdie Thu 14-Nov-13 09:03:41

Sorry GCs oopssmile

berdie Thu 14-Nov-13 09:02:36

No not too old Mrs SB, why are we intent on spoiling the English language with this type of "speak" ?. One of my pet hates is the phrase "its a no brainer", where on earth has that come from. Its bad enough trying to teach your children and GD's to speak properly, without adults "fincking", and using the word "fought" instead of thought. Its just down to laziness, nothing wrong with the three "Rs". Keep the standards up*MrsSB*.smile

LizG Thu 14-Nov-13 08:35:52

Not too old MrsSB just a true, proud Gransnetter smile

MrsSB Thu 14-Nov-13 08:17:06

I do find myself becoming exasperated by the use of text speak when writing and odd ways of spelling. My sister has just replied to a Facebook PM with "Oh, kewl ....". I assume she means "Oh, cool ...", and while I find it odd that a 50+ woman would say "cool", anyway, what I find really irritating is that she spelt it "kewl"!! Why??? She didn't save herself typing time, it's the same number of letters. I just don't understand it.

And don't get me started on text speak. I don't mind abbreviations being used in texts, but I really hate to see text speak used in emails, etc. Am I getting too old smile?