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Steven Pinker on "literally" ; and some other linguistic things...

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thatbags Wed 31-Dec-14 08:44:20

...that 'do people's heads in' wink

thatbags Wed 31-Dec-14 08:46:51

Oh! I love this: "Messing up the order of delimiters in a way that doesn’t reflect the logical nesting of their content is just an affront to an orderly mind."

[linguistic fun emoticon] smile

Mishap Wed 31-Dec-14 10:25:32

My friend peppers her conversation with the word. She is the kindest person in the universe, so I concentrate on that as it seems far more important.

crun Wed 31-Dec-14 14:34:52

On the subject of Latin plurals, I wondered what the plural of locum is a while back.

Singular: Locum tenens
Plural: Locum tenentes

Locum is just an abbreviation.

I like Pinker, if you do too, this and this are a good read.

On the subject of italics, this is a good quote from Attwood:

I didn't say she stole my money.
I didn't say she stole my money.
I didn't say she stole my money.
I didn't say she stole my money.
I didn't say she stole my money.
I didn't say she stole my money.
I didn't say she stole my money.

Ariadne Wed 31-Dec-14 18:50:40

Ah, so "locum" doesn't have to agree with "tenens" because "tenens" or "tenentes" is a verbal noun, comprising person and action, and "Locum" is the subject therefore doesn't need to be plural. Fascinating stuff.
Need a drink...

Elegran Wed 31-Dec-14 18:59:52

Does "locum tenens" mean "placeholder" - so the plural is placeholders - the holders are plural but the place is not?

Elegran Wed 31-Dec-14 19:00:29

That makes "locum" the object, not the subject . . .

mcem Wed 31-Dec-14 19:24:32

Think it's locus (nominative case therefore subject) and locum (accusative therefore object). Locus means place so locum tenens means placeholder. Plural of locus is loci. However it's the holder that needs to be plural. Agree with tenentes. Using locum as the subject is wrong but has become the norm I think.
Ready to be corrected by classics experts!

Ariadne Wed 31-Dec-14 22:47:26

Lovely stuff! Too tiddly tired to comment further.

crun Thu 01-Jan-15 01:11:25

"Using locum as the subject is wrong but has become the norm I think."

A bit like another habit that irritates me: Forensic science abbreviated to forensic. Forensic means relating to a court of law and could apply to any number of specialities, not just science.