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One can't 'respect' information

(29 Posts)
thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 09:48:42

A Jewish community radio station has shut down in the wale of terror attacks. The reporter in this article says s/he doesn't believe it,s too dangerous for the radio station to continue broadcasting but s/he "respects" the information given. Sigh. One can't respect information. One can accept it as a point of view.

durhamjen Fri 20-Feb-15 00:20:55

Maybe you just need to give us a lesson on your definition of pedantry, bags.

My dictionary says you can respect things; therefore you can respect information.

Ana Thu 19-Feb-15 22:14:10

i.e. opening poster

Ana Thu 19-Feb-15 22:07:16

I meant the OP as in thatbags.

absent Thu 19-Feb-15 21:54:05

Actually, I'm not at all sure that I do understand what the journalist means.

Ana Thu 19-Feb-15 18:47:02

I have a great respect for incremental improvement, and I've done that sort of thing in my life, but I've always been attracted to the more revolutionary changes. I don't know why. Because they're harder. They're much more stressful emotionally. And you usually go through a period where everybody tells you that you've completely failed.

Steve Jobs

Found this on a website called 'Brainy Quotes' but perhaps it shouldn't have been included? It made me wonder whether 'respect' is actually used in that way more often than we, or at least I, notice. Now I'm rambling...

Ana Thu 19-Feb-15 18:36:43

I thought it was understood that you can't respect an inanimate object, as was stated in the OP. Not sure why you think no one but you 'gets' it thatbags. confused

Elegran Thu 19-Feb-15 18:25:46

I can see that there needs to be a personality to get respect. You can believe information, and trust that it is accurate, but you can respect the person who told it to you. If you don't respect the teller, you are likely not to believe or trust the information.

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 18:22:36

Pedants' Corner was definitely the wrong place.

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 18:22:02

It's not about the grammar or translation or whether the message can be understood!! (not shouting at you, ana)

Sigh. Never mind. Just forget it.

Ana Thu 19-Feb-15 17:57:40

I agree that strictly speaking it's not grammatically correct and sounds a bit odd. That's the only response I can muster.

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 17:47:45

I did wonder about putting in the philosophy forum... but, as I said, hey ho.

Stansgran Thu 19-Feb-15 16:58:51

Or may be they do but prefer to save breath to cool porridge.

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 14:56:47

I agree that it's obvious what was meant and that the report served its purpose. The reason I started this thread is neither of those. Ah well, it's just as well I'm used to having out on a limb thoughts that others don't 'get'. Hey ho and all that.

annodomini Thu 19-Feb-15 13:43:06

Since it's perfectly obvious what was meant by the reporter quoted in the OP, I suggest that the report served its purpose.

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 13:29:42

loopy grin

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 13:29:17

In other words, dj, I wish to discuss an idea. I am not criticising the news report as such, nor the reporter, just picking up an idea that the words used suggested to me and wondering out loud about it. This is what gransnet is for as far as I'm concerned.

loopylou Thu 19-Feb-15 13:28:19

Seconds away....Round 2!
grin

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 13:23:30

Thank you for your pedantic and pernickety posts, dj. Perfect for Pedants' Corner. Please note, even I do typos sometimes, shocking to your system though that abviously is. The inverted comma going wrong is a particularly common one. It's to do with how the inverted comma key on an iPad works. I can give you the details if you're interested. Meanwhile, please accept my abject apologies for imperfect proof reading of my post. (actually, sometimes, I see that mistake and think oh fuck it, I can't be arsed to change it again).

Now, where was I? Oh yes. Being pedantic in Pedants' Corner. I understand your comment about translation and that may well be right. Nevertheless, I stand by my original assessment about opinions not needing respect, possibly it not even being possible to respect opinions.

That is now open to gransnetters to discuss smile

GrannyTwice Thu 19-Feb-15 11:55:52

Well yes - we are allowed to be pedantic here smile

Grannyknot Thu 19-Feb-15 11:41:06

That was in response to the OP. I suppose the answer is it matters to pendants smile

Grannyknot Thu 19-Feb-15 11:40:07

... does it matter?

durhamjen Thu 19-Feb-15 10:11:49

According to my dictionary, to respect something means to consider it worthy of respect. Therefore there was nothing wrong with the original.

Anyway, I think anyone writing in a Danish newspaper about Jewish matters would be more concerned about whether they were going to be shot, than the nuances of what they write.

In Danish there are lots of words that have similar meanings so they use the same word. It's context that gives meaning.

durhamjen Thu 19-Feb-15 10:05:03

Someone who is being pedantic should get her words and punctuation correct.

durhamjen Thu 19-Feb-15 10:04:05

Could that not just be a slight mistranslation? It is, after all, in a Danish newspaper.
It's a bit disrespectful to be pernickety about one word, considering the circumstances.

thatbags Thu 19-Feb-15 09:58:41

One can have confidence in information, e.g. if one knows its source is well-founded.