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Pence

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mrsmopp Fri 10-Jul-15 07:58:52

At the supermarket checkout the girl said, 'that's twenty five pounds and one pence please'. This is a very common error. I remember Gordon Brown in his budget speech saying beer (or cigarettes) would be increased by one pence. It is so irritating.
Does nobody say penny any more? Penny singular, pence plural. Not dufficult is it?

Ana Sat 11-Jul-15 20:21:37

Something, yes. Not necessarily a lot though.

Lilygran Sat 11-Jul-15 20:19:35

Whatever the motivation, it tells you something about them, doesn't it?

Ana Sat 11-Jul-15 19:20:33

Yes, but it could just be that they want to 'fit in', no ulterior motive.

(Not saying that's the case with politicians!)

Lilygran Sat 11-Jul-15 19:16:02

And surely, if someone adopts an accent and language not natural to them, that tells you a lot about who they are.

Lilygran Sat 11-Jul-15 19:13:44

As long as you can understand them, and they can say what they mean to say!

Anniebach Sat 11-Jul-15 10:21:25

I am not troubled with how people speak, more interested in what they have to say

Nonnie Sat 11-Jul-15 09:40:44

But Nige is not only talented but very witty and he sticks to what he believes!

AshTree Sat 11-Jul-15 08:54:22

Yes, Lilygran, you're right - a bit like Nigel Kennedy adopting an estuary English accent.

Lilygran Sat 11-Jul-15 08:30:12

Blair immediately adopted any turn of speech that made him sound uneducated. To conceal his impressively privileged background.

pompa Sat 11-Jul-15 07:11:40

My English grammar never was that good, so most of these pass me by, except "more dearer" etc (whatever the term is for this type of error)
Oh and by the way I never don't put both foots into each socks.

Anya Sat 11-Jul-15 06:44:58

I don't get too stressed by 'pence' , rather it's double negatives that totally freak me out.

feetlebaum Sat 11-Jul-15 06:25:53

Re 'One pence', I remember being aghast to hear the PM, the Boy Blair, use the expression in a parliamentary speech. It can only be either Nursery level humour, or downright ignorance... akin to wearing socks on both foots.

vampirequeen Fri 10-Jul-15 23:46:30

Ah i see. Thank you

feetlebaum Fri 10-Jul-15 23:41:35

@Vampirequeen - The 'split infinitive' occurs in English because it can... that is, it's two words ('to go', 'to eat', 'to run') with a space between them, while all the major languages that surround us have a single word form (English 'to eat', French 'manger', Spanish 'comer', Italian 'mangiare' German 'essen'). Victorian grammarians, realizing that Latin infinitives weren't splittable either, decided it was therefore wrong to slip anything between the 'to' and the verb in English, which was rather silly of them.

Often a split infinitive is poor style, although sometimes it can't be improved - 'To boldly go....' is more elegant than 'Boldly to go...' or 'To go boldly...', isn't it?

ninathenana Fri 10-Jul-15 22:38:19

Aah, sorry Nonnie I missed your point. I Did comment to DH that you'd typed Number number smile stoopid me.

Nonnie Fri 10-Jul-15 22:29:57

Ana I was beginning to think I was the only one who could see it. So glad I am not alone.

Ana Fri 10-Jul-15 20:06:22

Yes, that's the point I was making in my posts, Nonnie! smile

AshTree Fri 10-Jul-15 20:04:00

Many years ago the office I worked in sold International Student Identity Cards. They were known as ISIC Cards, while they should, of course, have been ISI Cards.

Nonnie Fri 10-Jul-15 19:18:10

Nina nothing wrong with PIN it is PIN number I have the issue with. Personal Identification Number Number!

Ana Fri 10-Jul-15 18:48:26

Unless we pronounced it 'pie'...

Ana Fri 10-Jul-15 18:47:52

Not really, it could just be PI number. Only one syllable more! grin

ninathenana Fri 10-Jul-15 18:45:29

PIN has always been used, since the facility became general use. I can't see it as something you'd need "to get used too" when that's the way it's always been. It's a bit long winded otherwise.

rosesarered Fri 10-Jul-15 15:30:39

I wonder why people got used to saying 50 pee when they never said dee before that.can anyone lend me a sov?

Nonnie Fri 10-Jul-15 15:23:31

I think I have got a bit used to pence in that respect but I can't get used to PIN number. I have even seen in written on bank literature!

grumppa Fri 10-Jul-15 14:26:56

Yes, but what do people say? Mrs. Grumppa still spends a penny; I go for a pee.