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'for free'

(40 Posts)
thatbags Wed 26-Aug-15 20:16:24

Seems to me that a great deal of space in Pedants' Corner is used for people to complain about how other people speak even when the meaning of what is being said is perfectly clear. I thought pedantry was to discuss uses (usages?) of language that made meaning unclear. Pedantry isn't really just personal preference nit-picking, is it?

Anne58 Wed 26-Aug-15 19:23:50

Maybe not "correct" Maizie but perhaps accepted? By some , at least, can't say I like the phrase though! (Songs alright)

rosesarered Wed 26-Aug-15 19:20:32

Because Dire Straits are cool.smile

MaizieD Wed 26-Aug-15 19:08:24

Why on earth would the fact that Dire Straits sang it make it now 'correct'?

thatbags Wed 26-Aug-15 14:16:10

As for the phrase "for free"... shrug. Use it if you like it. Don't if you don't. Get all het up about americanisms if you want to; don't if you're more relaxed about how the English language is used on another continent and then, as roses said, swims over here.

I don't agree that it's incorrect. Not any more. Not since that Dire Straits song.

I bet phrases Shakespeare used sometimes annoyed people back then. Shrug again.

rosesarered Wed 26-Aug-15 14:13:16

Although, if you have a dog, it will soon be hoovered up!

thatbags Wed 26-Aug-15 14:11:47

"shedding sandwich"

grin

Love that, stansgran. Consider it purloined for use in my house.

Jane10 Wed 26-Aug-15 14:03:13

I cant stand "park up". Why can't people just park their cars?

rosesarered Wed 26-Aug-15 13:50:41

Money for nothing, chicks for free... As the Dire Straits song goes.Yes, it's an Americanism, one of many that swim over here across the wide Atlantic.

MaizieD Wed 26-Aug-15 13:47:46

I'm glad I'm not the only one, then grin

My Mum used to say 'free, gratis and for nothing' too. (note: not 'for free, gratis etc.)

I first saw 'for free' in the 1970s with Richard Mabey's 'Food For Free' but it didn't catch on then. Why has it suddenly popped up all over the place 40 years later, and why is Gransnet, who really ought to know better, using it?

Stansgran Tue 25-Aug-15 11:03:57

Alea I say it. But I'm not your granny. It's usually when I point out that plates should be used when DH is walking through the house with a shedding sandwich.

Alea Tue 25-Aug-15 10:59:39

One of my late Scottish granny's favourite sayings was that something was "free, gratis and for nothing"!

Luckygirl Tue 25-Aug-15 10:44:59

I think it is an americanism.

hildajenniJ Tue 25-Aug-15 10:31:27

Hello MaizieD and welcome. Using "for free" annoys me too. It is either free or for x amount. I know exactly how you feel.

MaizieD Tue 25-Aug-15 10:20:56

Have finally been driven to joining Gransnet by intense hatred of the term 'for free'. I caught sight of it at the bottom of the page when reading the the chester draws thread and saw red.

In the context of getting something without payment 'for' needs to be followed by a quantity. 'Free' is not a quantity, it is just a contraction of the phrase 'free of charge'. I know 'for free' sounds charmingly alliterative but it is just plain WRONG. It's 'for nothing', if you really insist on using 'for', or just 'free'.

Am I the only person left who knows this?